TV licensing people are after me!

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and as such deserve all you get...

Hardly, it's unsolicited goods, they are intentially sending you goods (photons/tv programs) without your request, with a view to you using them, and then demanding payment and threatening legal action. If it wasn't a government organisation (for all intents and purposes) it would be illegal under the "Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations 2000".
 
Hardly, it's unsolicited goods, they are intentially sending you goods (photons/tv programs) without your request, with a view to you using them, and then demanding payment and threatening legal action. If it wasn't a government organisation (for all intents and purposes) it would be illegal under the "Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations 2000".

it's not at all, it only becomes a product once you decide to buy equipment and tune it in to display images.
They do not ask for payment on the radio waves.
 
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Hardly, it's unsolicited goods, they are intentially sending you goods (photons/tv programs) without your request, with a view to you using them, and then demanding payment and threatening legal action. If it wasn't a government organisation (for all intents and purposes) it would be illegal under the "Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations 2000".

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You sound like the type that advocates personal injury lawyers too. :rolleyes:
 
It is (although easier if it isn't plugged in to an ariel). The Licencing authority have to prove you are watching live broadcasts. Having the TV tuned in but off would not stand up in court. The only legally binding way of getting caught is if the TV licencing people are in your house and see the TV on. Anything else and you don't have to pay squat, problem is a lot of people 1. Don't realise this and 2. Are afraid of the big fine they are threatened with (even though there would be no way a court would uphold it), so pay up.

Either way, if you have your TV/video recorder plugged in to an external arial then most of the time you probably are watching TV and as such deserve all you get...


At the time I didnt even have a TV, only the videorecorder. Anyway my parents paid the fine and it was over 20 years ago, before satellite and mobile phones, PC tuners and such so it may be different now, although the Citizens Advice Bureau agree with me. :)
 
just one flaw in that rule, how easy is it to just unplug the TV arial from the TV/VHS/DVD whatever after use?
 
it's not at all, it only becomes a product once you decide to buy equipment and tune it in to display images.
They do not ask for payment on the radio waves.

The photons themselves are a good. Which you can use in whatever way you want.

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You sound like the type that advocates personal injury lawyers too. :rolleyes:

Just the type that doesn't like unsolicited goods and unfair taxes.
 
The photons themselves are a good.

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The radio waves are free, there is no charge for them and no way to stop anyone receiving them. there is no way your argument stands up in anyway.
it is invisible, is not solid and is licensed by the government. it is NOT a good.
 
it's not at all, it only becomes a product once you decide to buy equipment and tune it in to display images.
They do not ask for payment on the radio waves.

Exactly. You have to go out of your way to receive them. If you could pick them up with your ears then it would be different.:p

At the time I didnt even have a TV, only the videorecorder. Anyway my parents paid the fine and it was over 20 years ago, before satellite and mobile phones, PC tuners and such so it may be different now, although the Citizens Advice Bureau agree with me. :)

Finely tuned lawyers that they are...

Yup, from my understanding they can be quite useless. I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.
 
The radio waves are free, there is no charge for them and no way to stop anyone receiving them. there is no way your argument stands up in anyway.
it is invisible, is not solid and is licensed by the government. it is NOT a good.

Photons are a particle which are solid as demonstrated by numerous experiments and are visible with the correct detector just as light is visible to our eyes.

The bbc have also failed to meet these obligations under the act:

Information required prior to the conclusion of the contract
7. - (1) Subject to paragraph (4), in good time prior to the conclusion of the contract the supplier shall -

(a) provide to the consumer the following information -

(i) the identity of the supplier and, where the contract requires payment in advance, the supplier's address;

(ii) a description of the main characteristics of the goods or services;

(iii) the price of the goods or services including all taxes;

(iv) delivery costs where appropriate;

(v) the arrangements for payment, delivery or performance;

(vi) the existence of a right of cancellation except in the cases referred to in regulation 13;

(vii) the cost of using the means of distance communication where it is calculated other than at the basic rate;

(viii) the period for which the offer or the price remains valid; and

(ix) where appropriate, the minimum duration of the contract, in the case of contracts for the supply of goods or services to be performed permanently or recurrently;

EDIT- Just to clarify any misunderstanding, I'm not trying to say that the corrupt government necessarily considers the photons as a good (though I haven't see any evidence to the contrary), just that I do based on the legislation and what is fair. Which is what I personally live by, ethics rather than the law, I just manage not to get caught. ;)
 
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THAt's complete rubbish and makes no sense. Don't try justifying it. In no way can radio waves be seen as a good, they are not. As such that law is totally unusable.
You can not just pick and choose what laws you want.



And if you really want to follow that law, everypoint of it is followed. Description of goods is broadcasting. Price, payment and cancelations details are in the letters.
 
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Don't even have a clue whats going on here lol...

Whats wrong with radio waves AcidHell2 :( I like radio.

READ THAT WRONG LOL

Get you now :p
 
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