Am I getting old or ....

Ok so the other night I watched the top 40 on channel 4 for the first time in years and I couldn't believe how **** pop music is today. Talentless R&B/rap monkeys like Timbaland and Timberlake.

Right now i'm on youtube and listening to chart stuff from the 80s and for me it seems the music then was of a much, much higer quality. Do you think it's just me showing my age (33) or is todays music really crap?

I'm 19 and I agree with this, I only listen to 80's era music - most of the rest is just rubbish!
 
I tottaly agreeee. todays music is rubbish. im 18 this august and i listen to phil collins. i do listen to rap however but mostly 90s like dr dre and ice cube.

every person ( except my best m8 who listens to phil collins as well) i talk 2 my age thinks im a total wierdo :/
 
I've got a feeling 2011 is going to be a vintage year for music, ask Simon Cowell

Edit, seriously since Pop Idol started in 1991 the world of music in the UK has gone downhill
 
We all get brainwashed with music, it's more down to what your brought up with i.e. that you get into etc, thats what I think anyway.

I'm mainly into House music myself - 90's onwards, theirs not much I would say I listen to in that respect that even got into the charts.

I listen to quite a variety of music though, some 70's funk/disco, 80's especially the classic movie tunes.

I bet all the Teenagers love all this so called chart crap music, to me it's all crap, especially that Hardcore - Bonkers Rave cheesy crap lol.
 
i'm 29 and i am officially well old. ready to retire i think as i went out at the weekend, with the first night just a few tipsy doubles and on the second night - got drunk, threw up (from what i gather it was all outside and wasn't a proper 'hurl' lol), passed out and woke up on someones sofa. The third night i could only manage a few doubles as i really didn't like them!
 
i'm 29 and i am officially well old. ready to retire i think as i went out at the weekend, with the first night just a few tipsy doubles and on the second night - got drunk, threw up (from what i gather it was all outside and wasn't a proper 'hurl' lol), passed out and woke up on someones sofa. The third night i could only manage a few doubles as i really didn't like them!

and how was the music?
 
Its in the chart because of the chavs and ****** that buy/download it. Speaks for itself really.
 
Modern chart music is awful but there is a lot of good stuff out there. I'm very very thankful I didn't have to grow up listening to 80s music.
 
I tottaly agreeee. todays music is rubbish. im 18 this august and i listen to phil collins. i do listen to rap however but mostly 90s like dr dre and ice cube.

every person ( except my best m8 who listens to phil collins as well) i talk 2 my age thinks im a total wierdo :/

You listen to Phil Collins. You are a weirdo :p
 
I am heavily involved within the music industry, speciffically within 'up & coming artists' and for all the people saying 'modern music is terrible' and 'todays music is terrible' you couldn't be further from the truth.

The CHARTS are terrible. But that is what sells to people who like to bop along in clubs, or in their car on the motorway.

Modern music is absolutely fantastic and there is some incredible stuff out there. I had a thread in Music a while back about up and coming artists, people mainly weren't interested.

There are a lot of independent labels, artists, managers, agents and other various industry people doing fantastic things. You just have to search further than Radio 1 and NME/Q!

It goes for Festivals - the best music is never the main stage. It's always the smaller tents and the up and coming tents.

BBC Introducing has been an absolute revelation, people such as Huw Stephens, Tom Robinson etc have all been fantastic with helping the new music come through.
They are on Radio 1, but often very late night slots for their Introducing shows.

Having said this, BBC Introducing also hasn't helped a lot of bands, in the fact that there are TONS of other fantastic acts that don't get airtime that deserve it more than some others.

Modern music isn't crap - The charts are.
A number one means nothing anymore.
 
It goes for Festivals - the best music is never the main stage. It's always the smaller tents and the up and coming tents.

Agree with everything you said apart from this bit. It's this sort of view that turns a lot of people off independant music and back towards the mainstream - the fact that a lot of people involved in indy music refuse to acknowledge that some mainstream music can actually be good. I agree that much of the best music at festivals will be found in smaller tents but I've heard a lot of awful music in these same tents. Similarly a lot of good music is also found in the bigger tents and stages if you can be bothered filtering out the rubbish. Modern music is in a decent state and the people who claim otherwise aren't looking hard enough.
 
Agree with everything you said apart from this bit. It's this sort of view that turns a lot of people off independant music and back towards the mainstream - the fact that a lot of people involved in indy music refuse to acknowledge that some mainstream music can actually be good. I agree that much of the best music at festivals will be found in smaller tents but I've heard a lot of awful music in these same tents. Similarly a lot of good music is also found in the bigger tents and stages if you can be bothered filtering out the rubbish. Modern music is in a decent state and the people who claim otherwise aren't looking hard enough.

For me personally it is always the smaller tents.

I can like artists on the main stage yes - but overall, I would prefer the smaller tents.

It also very much depends on what festival too though.

It was a big sweeping generalization by me and based on my own opinion - what I probably more intended is people should stray from the main stage and not be afraid to leave there.

I agree there is some crap on the smaller stages also.

I agree that some people in the scene refuse to acknowledge that there can't be good music on main stages - I am however happy when theres a bit that have gone up and through that make it to the main stage, without changing themselves in a big way.

Festivals such a South By South West in the US, and The Great Escape in the UK are fantastic though.
Live at Leeds and Camden Crawl are also generally quite good for some new music too.
 
Good start -

I am heavily involved within the music industry, speciffically within 'up & coming artists' and for all the people saying 'modern music is terrible' and 'todays music is terrible' you couldn't be further from the truth.

And then you go and talk nonsense -

The CHARTS are terrible. But that is what sells to people who like to bop along in clubs, or in their car on the motorway.

So if you had a chance to get these up & coming artists into the charts you would then think they are terrible?
So are you the person who helps them to 'sell out'?
 
Good start -



And then you go and talk nonsense -



So if you had a chance to get these up & coming artists into the charts you would then think they are terrible?
So are you the person who helps them to 'sell out'?


Tinie Tempah, Chipmunk, Plan B, ETC. That is what I consider the 'charts'.

The odd good thing will debut in there here and there, but it will always be in the 30's and usually out of the Top 40.

I am actually that the Charts AS IT STANDS, are terrible.

You've clearly missed a point in saying that I help people sell out, and that if the up and coming artists got into the chart they would be terrible.

The people in the chart are widely terrible, like the names I have put above. There are the odd few that get in that are great. I am not saying just because someone gets into the chart they are terrible, nor did I imply that.

I would be happy if artists I knew got into the chart, I think anyone would. But, the chart music that everyone knows of, is widely terrible.

People live their life by NME, Q, Radio 1, MTV, etc.

There is more than that.

And no, I don't help people sell out.

I just don't feel that what is currently in the charts is reflecting modern music well. It is modern 'mainstream' music.

I can't comment on people selling out or changing their sound to achieve the fame, too broad a subject. You'd have to ask specific artists.

I think you've made an assumption that if an artist I liked got into the charts they'd automatically be terrible, no.
I made a comment about how the charts are now, as it currently stands, that most artists in it are terrible.
 
Yup, just because an artist makes it into the charts doesn't mean they have sold out, some good music can also be popular but most of the time their sound is altered to become popular. that is selling out because you are substituting your musical integrity for money. If you make something good and popular then well done. we need more artists like this.

I think with the internet record companies are slowly losing their grip and you don't need a record company really these days but even still you are trying to enter a market where your customers are used to **** and want ****. Not easy.
 
ofcom are bang out of order allowing small stations to gobbled up by the likes of heart, they shouldn't allow stations to have such a narrow music list.
 
ofcom are bang out of order allowing small stations to gobbled up by the likes of heart, they shouldn't allow stations to have such a narrow music list.

The XFM top 100 british songs (on now) highlights how narrow radio playlists are. Ten songs for Oasis and ten songs for Muse. So the listeners and staff of this station think that these two bands account for a fifth of the best songs ever recorded by a British artist. I'm not going to give my opinion on either band as it's really besides the point.
 
The XFM top 100 british songs (on now) highlights how narrow radio playlists are. Ten songs for Oasis and ten songs for Muse. So the listeners and staff of this station think that these two bands account for a fifth of the best songs ever recorded by a British artist. I'm not going to give my opinion on either band as it's really besides the point.

I like both those bands, and they account for a lot of what I listen to, so I would say muse and Oasis easily have 10 each of the best songs by british bands.

For those that dont like them, they wont.
 
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