EBC RedStuff pads - Opinions please!

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Going to be getting some of these for the Ti for my 'Ring trip in June, what's the general consensus?

Would prefer it if they didn't eat the discs at an alarming rate, as they're a pain to change! :p

Talking about non-track performance as well, as it's an 800 mile trip each way and I don't want to end up in the back of a German lorry.

Thanks!
 
Would also like to hear opinions on the redstuff pads. Last weeks mot highlighted my front pads will need changing in the next few months, and with a 'Ring trip in August I'm looking to go for fast road/track pads. Have been leaning towards the Ferodo ds2500, any opinions on these too?
 
I hear varying opinions on brake pads depending on what cars they are fitted too. For example red stuff pads are a total no no on a e46 m3 yet are highly regarded in jap car forums. DS2500's get varying opnions too. I would check out your own car specific forums to decide what works well with your cars. Of course a BBK from AP or the like is the real answer!
 
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@ dale, the DS2500 pads get a good write up from most, especially DC2 owners, so go for it!
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Thanks, will do some more reading up and go from there. Will also try and find out what pads I fitted last year as I've never had a hint of brake fade, and that includes 3 laps on the bounce at the Nurburgring last year.
 
rover416i said:
Bah I hope so, trying not to think about that! :D

Taking lots of tools and spare bits, just in case ;)
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Out of interest what route are you taking down? 800 miles each way is a big chunk of driving, you not considered a ferry to holland and driving down from there? Its only a 3 hour drive from Amsterdam, which is where we get the ferry to from Newcastle.
 
I killed a set of red-stuff in one day at Donington. They were good for that day, but only for that day, no noticable brake fade.

:D
 
I've never really understood the "uprated" pads thing. Ok, I sort of understand it but if your OEM pads can lock-up the wheels then surely they are up to the job? Other than wear any noticeable braking "improvement" will come from discs and ability to dissipate heat to avoid fade?

Is using different to OEM pads purely a wear issue? I cannot see how you will get more braking performance unless OEM were not specced for the job properly initially.
 
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dale1uk said:
Out of interest what route are you taking down? 800 miles each way is a big chunk of driving, you not considered a ferry to holland and driving down from there? Its only a 3 hour drive from Amsterdam, which is where we get the ferry to from Newcastle.
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From Dover to Dunkerque and then driving the rest of the way.

It's only 4ish hours from Dunkerque to the Nurburg.

Mat, have a look at either DS2500 or something from Carbotech.
 
I never really liked EBC after checking used ones out, the bonding between the pad and backing plate frequently cracked and there never appeared to be an intermediate layer like other pads to join the two materials.

As to the braking thing.

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Each of those brakes will feel a fair bit different at the range of temperatures.
 
Sin_Chase said:
I've never really understood the "uprated" pads thing. Ok, I sort of understand it but if your OEM pads can lock-up the wheels then surely they are up to the job? Other than wear any noticeable braking "improvement" will come from discs and ability to dissipate heat to avoid fade?

Is using different to OEM pads purely a wear issue? I cannot see how you will get more braking performance unless OEM were not specced for the job properly initially.
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My understanding is that 'uprated' pads will keep working at a higher temperature, therefore the chance of experiancing brake fade is largely reduced. Also they have a higher friction rating so allows you to brake stronger/reduce braking distances.

Unless I'm completely wrong? :confused:
 
Sin_Chase said:
I've never really understood the "uprated" pads thing. Ok, I sort of understand it but if your OEM pads can lock-up the wheels then surely they are up to the job? Other than wear any noticeable braking "improvement" will come from discs and ability to dissipate heat to avoid fade?
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Different pads have different temperature ranges. This helps to alleviate fade in the same way as better heat dissipating discs.

dale1uk said:
My understanding is that 'uprated' pads will keep working at a higher temperature, therefore the chance of experiancing brake fade is largely reduced. Also they have a higher friction rating so allows you to brake stronger/reduce braking distances.

Unless I'm completely wrong? :confused:
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No, you are completely right :)
 
Redstuff pads are good, but would only recommend for fast road use as I have never experienced them on track. I will say that they take 5-6 applications from cold to work and never got any squeal or too much dust from them.

Would recommend, but as I said...can't tell you how they performed at the top edge of performance as I never got the chance to test them.

I am looking to buy redstuff again for the Z4M :)
 
Got Redstuff pads front and back on the Saxo - can't fault them for fast road use. With them being ceramic based, they seem to bite much better when there's some heat in them (or maybe it's just me). Braking from cold isn't a problem though. Dust is what you'd expect from an 'uprated pad', a fair bit more than OEM items I find.

Can't comment on how they stand up to track use - doing a full day in July so will let you know. A few friends of mine have used Yellowstuff on track days and I'm told they're superb for the money.
 
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