Poll: Mods, one last poll before tomorrow?

Who are you voting for tomorrow?

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 251 35.1%
  • Labour

    Votes: 78 10.9%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 316 44.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 71 9.9%

  • Total voters
    716
  • Poll closed .
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Which one would that be?

As far as Im aware, the conservatives. They say they want to root out pointless managers and beaurocracy and give power more locally. Also they have a good reputation for business's, so if you are a hard worker and good at what you do theres more potential.
 
I didn't know the Greens had done so well in Brighton, be interesting to see how that pans out as the bookies have the Green Party as favourites to take their first seat in the Commons.

That said, there is an Independent standing called Leo Atreides, which is awesome :p
 
I dont know what 'artificial' bubble your referring to... but the bare facts are that the Conservatives are pledging somewhere in the region of £6bn of public spending cuts in the next year.

The region in which i live ( dumfries and galloway ) has, like many others, a dependancy on these public services for jobs etc. To savage the public purse in such a short period seems a tad reactionary to me. What also worries me is the little reported fact that a Conservative govt would also be, and im prepared to be corrected on this, considering a VAT rise to 20%.

There are a few things that the Conservatives say ( Europe, nuclear power to name two ) that I agree with, but I cant see how pulling so much money out of the public purse benefits the economy in any way, shape or form.

The bubble would be the one caused by government borrowing and spending rather than encouraging enterprise that have seen the national debt more than double in 10 years.

As for VAT, all parties are considering a vat rise, because of the mess that Labour have left of the public finances.
 
Yep. But not by much. Larger scale fabrication would bring costs way down, but more interest is needed.

Well that is the problem then, people are interested in getting power for the lowest price, hence resorting to nuclear energy. We don't want to pay more for energy then we already do.
 
Yep. But not by much. Larger scale fabrication would bring costs way down, but more interest is needed.

it's not just cost, it is the huge redundancies required, as it can't provide base or peak loads as you can't predict it. Also needs massive national grid upgrade. It also needs the rest of Europe to come on board and a huge Europe wide national grid. These are all things we need to do. But this is not going to happen yet. We need something to fill the gap, that is nuclear.
 
We need a proper matrix for energy.

Nuclear, wind, wave all have there place in the UK. What we need is more energy efficeint housing, and solar panels/small turbines on people's homes to generate there own power and have the grid as backup.
 
maybe, but that doesn't mean it's cheap, get it yet?;)

no, you're not making any sense.

Yep. But not by much. Larger scale fabrication would bring costs way down, but more interest is needed.

actually nuclear power is considerably cheaper than wind/solar/"wave power" simply because they're all so MISERABLY INEFFICIENT.

for example, the current highest power-per-year solar power plant is the Moura photovoltaic power station, which cost €250 million and develops (PEAK) only 46 megawatts - which means a piffling Five Million, Four Hundred Thousand Euros per SINGLE megawatt.

on the other hand, one France's up-and-coming new nuclear power plants is estimated to cost roughly four thousand million, but will develop (PEAK) 1,650 Megawatts - (1.65GW!), for a cost of only about Two million, four hundred thousand per megawatt. that's less than HALF of solar. wind fares even worse than solar, by the way.
 
Of course he is. What he's saying is that just because nuclear energy may be cheaper to generate, doesn't mean it'll cost the consumer any less. Business exists to make money, n'est pas?

These businesses pay tax, so even though for consumers it doesn't directly matter, there will be more tax money to spend or less debt to pay off as a result.
 
Of course he is. What he's saying is that just because nuclear energy may be cheaper to generate, doesn't mean it'll cost the consumer any less. Business exists to make money, n'est pas?

Only if the state gets involved and buggers up the market forces sufficiently...
 
Of course he is. What he's saying is that just because nuclear energy may be cheaper to generate, doesn't mean it'll cost the consumer any less. Business exists to make money, n'est pas?

electricity is so expensive in the UK because we have to buy almost all of it from the blasted frenchies! especially when you consider how British Gas and the other energy companies raise the price of electricity about about 28 million percent every three years, how can you say that substantially cheaper generation-cost for electricity wouldn't result in a lower price for the consumers?

electricity in france costs about HALF what it costs here in the uk.
 
At risk of getting off-topic...

actually nuclear power is considerably cheaper than wind/solar/"wave power" simply because they're all so MISERABLY INEFFICIENT.

I don't know what calculations you're doing. The best measure is price/kWh or similar. How much it costs per unit energy. There are several sources for this. Wikipedia has a few and a friend of mine recently sent me this. Wind and hydro are generally cheaper/similar to nuclear. Solar is still much more expensive, which as I said before is an economies of scale thing.
 
At risk of getting off-topic...



I don't know what calculations you're doing. The best measure is price/kWh or similar. How much it costs per unit energy. There are several sources for this. Wikipedia has a few and a friend of mine recently sent me this. Wind and hydro are generally cheaper/similar to nuclear. Solar is still much more expensive, which as I said before is an economies of scale thing.

Most of those figures prove his point, because as they clearly state, the include subsidies.

Level the playing field and out of the non-fossil technologies, nuclear is by far the cheapest, especially given land costs for onshore windfarms in the UK.
 
I think I'm gonna vote for the Monster Raving Loony William Hill Party.

I like some points of their manicfesto :

Refusing to sign up to the euro, but inviting the rest of Europe to join the £ pound

Drivers can go straight over a roundabout when there's no traffic coming "to make driving through Milton Keynes more fun" :D

Traffic cops "too stupid" for normal police work to be retrained as vicars

Withdrawal of MPs' £118,000 expenses allowance, and the money "in future be distributed to the poor and needy so that they can waste it instead"

Any MP whose constituency sells off a school playing field for development will be required to relinquish their own back garden as a replacement sports facility for the school

All motorways to become massive cycle tracks instead

All speed cameras will be abolished and replaced by a new device fitted to cars which will automatically slow down to the speed limit when driven though an infra-red beam

The introduction of a 99p coin to "save on change"
 
I think I'm gonna vote for the Monster Raving Loony William Hill Party.

I like some points of their manicfesto :

Refusing to sign up to the euro, but inviting the rest of Europe to join the £ pound

Drivers can go straight over a roundabout when there's no traffic coming "to make driving through Milton Keynes more fun" :D

Traffic cops "too stupid" for normal police work to be retrained as vicars

Withdrawal of MPs' £118,000 expenses allowance, and the money "in future be distributed to the poor and needy so that they can waste it instead"

Any MP whose constituency sells off a school playing field for development will be required to relinquish their own back garden as a replacement sports facility for the school

All motorways to become massive cycle tracks instead

All speed cameras will be abolished and replaced by a new device fitted to cars which will automatically slow down to the speed limit when driven though an infra-red beam

The introduction of a 99p coin to "save on change"

Are you serious or taking the **** ?
Half those points are completely retarded.
 
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