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EVGA 470

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Hi,

Not 100% sure how to word this but would any of you risk buying a evga gtx470 from a well known auction site? I don't want to say the price in case that is against the rules.

It has a lifetime warranty is what is making me want it so if I get messed about and it doesn't work evga would replace it right?
 
I wouldn't bother unless you got it cheap ( <£200 ). If your going to spend £250 on it...just get a 5850. Unless your wanting the nvidia stuff.
 
I wouldn't spend big bucks on an auction site, EVGA models are just the same spec as the rest, go with cheapest 470 you can find.
 
marc512 said:
I wouldn't bother unless you got it cheap ( <£200 ). If your going to spend £250 on it...just get a 5850. Unless your wanting the nvidia stuff.
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It's unlikely that it's going to be less than 200 quid is it now? and given the choice of a 470 or 5850 at £250 I'd go with the 470 everytime and twice on Sunday.
 
jigger said:
A 5850 with a average overclock will beat a gtx470.
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RavenXXX2 said:
This.
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Apart from the fact the 470 is generally faster than the 5850 at stock.

You both seem to be rather conveniently forgetting the 470 clocks rather well too, with good scaling :confused:

Not to mention the better overall package you'll get with the Nvidia card.

Fair enough it will run hotter and use more power, but tbh I really couldn't care less, I don't buy a top end video card and worry about saving the Earth :p

Anyway this is besides the point, I was merely saying if they were both @ £250 I'd go for the 470, obviously with retail prices where they are at the moment the choice would be a 5850 it's a no brainer.
 
coupe69 said:
Apart from the fact the 470 is generally faster than the 5850 at stock.

You both seem to be rather conveniently forgetting the 470 clocks rather well too, with good scaling :confused:

Not to mention the better overall package you'll get with the Nvidia card.

Fair enough it will run hotter and use more power, but tbh I really couldn't care less, I don't buy a top end video card and worry about saving the Earth :p

Anyway this is besides the point, I was merely saying if they were both @ £250 I'd go for the 470, obviously with retail prices where they are at the moment the choice would be a 5850 it's a no brainer.
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I was considering most of what you said when I made my first post, but after looking into the difference in the packages's and how much extra heat/power is produced/used, its become clear to me that a HD5850 poon's a GTX470 into next year. Rather than next month as I first thought.
 
jigger said:
Snip LOL
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You've obviously been extremely misinformed then, unless your purely talking about heat and power?

I'm not about to get into any flame wars which is no doubt what you're after, because let's face it jigger you're one of the biggest wind up merchants on these forums ;)

However I will suggest that you go and take another look at some non-biased benchmarks without the red tinted spectacles on.
 
coupe69 said:
You've obviously been extremely misinformed then, unless your purely talking about heat and power?

I'm not about to get into any flame wars which is no doubt what you're after, because let's face it jigger you're one of the biggest wind up merchants on these forums ;)

However I will suggest that you go and take another look at some non-biased benchmarks without the red tinted spectacles on.
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I give my opinion, you quoted me, I have another look and you don't like my opinion so you get a bit personal. Nice.
 
jigger said:
I give my opinion, you quoted me, I have another look and you don't like my opinion so you get a bit personal. Nice.
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The problem is you're clearly giving people misinformed biased information.

The 470 from most of the reviews I have read, usually lies somewhere between the 5850 and 5870 before any overclocking is done.

I'm with you that the 5850 at this precise moment in time obviously gives better value for money, there's no denying that fact.

If they were both at the same price point though would it not be a tougher choice?

Personally I'm not overly concerned with heat and power issues, for other people it's abundantly clear that it is.

We all have our own opinions, it would be a pretty boring place if we didn't, I just feel you could perhaps express yours in a slightly more diplomatic way, that's all.

I apologise if I offended :)
 
The 5850 is cheaper, cooler, uses less power and for the overclocker its faster. Please don't think I'm acting the *fanboy*, I am not. I'm not trying to act like a **** either. I'm just calling it as I see it.

IMO the GTX470 needs to be £50 less than HD5850 to be forgiven its short comings. But if you don't care about the heat, power and overclocked performance of the two cards then a GTX470 makes even less sense IMO, as you might as well just buy the faster GTX480.

When you consider the performance of a HD5870 can be matched or even surpassed by a overclocked 5850 it makes it almost impossible to ignore the fact a 5850 is probably the best graphics card on the market based only on its overclocking merits. Even just looking at the two card based only on stock speed performance, ignoring everything else and giving maximum advantage to the GTX470, it still cant muster up a conclusive win.

I'm sorry, but I cant except that the GTX470 is a better card than a HD5850, its just not IMO.
 
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I can say the only reason i'd ever buy a GTX470 over an HD5850 at an identical price point is if I was desperate for CUDA/PhysX/3D or something else nVidia exclusive.

And even then, i'd probably try and snap up something more cost effective like a second hand GTX280 off the MM instead, and add another later if I found performance to not be good enough.

Just looking through some benchmarks - the HD5850 and GTX470 trade blows but neither really does anything that separates it from the other in terms of performance. Then you trade in power, heat, and noise (important to some, especially people like me who have a mini ITX box inches from my keyboard) and it's hard to justify the nVidia offering.

Of course, each to their own etc. :)
 
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Tute said:
I can say the only reason i'd ever buy a GTX470 over an HD5850 at an identical price point is if I was desperate for CUDA/PhysX/3D or something else nVidia exclusive.

And even then, i'd probably try and snap up something more cost effective like a second hand GTX280 off the MM instead, and add another later if I found performance to not be good enough.

Just looking through some benchmarks - the HD5850 and GTX470 trade blows but neither really does anything that separates it from the other in terms of performance. Then you trade in power, heat, and noise (important to some, especially people like me who have a mini ITX box inches from my keyboard) and it's hard to justify the nVidia offering.

Of course, each to their own etc. :)
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I couldn't sum it up better myself
 
Tute said:
I can say the only reason i'd ever buy a GTX470 over an HD5850 at an identical price point is if I was desperate for CUDA/PhysX/3D or something else nVidia exclusive.
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You see this is why I bought Nvidia again, I want to have the option to turn this sort of stuff on or off. Surely this sort of thing is what PC gaming enthusiasts crave?

The more eye candy, the more envious your console loving mates become :D

While I appreciate ATis offerings definately offer better value for money, they don't bring anything new to the table. You get good frames per second at a reasonable price but that's your lot.

As I have recently purchased a 120Hz monitor, my only option for 3D with good support is Nvidia, and until ATi pull their finger out of their arse it looks like I'm going to be stuck with them for a while yet.
 
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