1k for PC & Monitor

gamesaregood said:
To keep within in MS OEM Licensing conditions my understanding is any change even if its a RMA replacement requires a new license.
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I bought the OEM for Vista. When I had to get a new motherboard I just rang up the activation service and said that my old one broke and was supplied a different make. It was very simple and they just activated it anyway.

Could be different for Windows 7 mind...
 
stulid, I'd not even heard of CUDA until you mentioned it, and no nothing I use uses that afaik.

Seeing as the i3 has built in graphics that supports hd content (suppose most of them do nowadays?) I think I'd just get the intel i3, then if needed get a dedicated graphics card at a later date.

As we've had a 2ghz P4 1gb beast for the last 9 years, its done up proud with only the psu needing to be changed. So I expect this build will be more than sufficient for years to come, but as you say if it needs a boost then we could get the i7.


I'm not fussed that the 1156 socket will be finished with next year, they'll always be new stuff coming out, so can't keep waiting, maybe if I needed a really powerful pc, then yer I would wait for new stuff to come out.


Just having a look at the oem vs retail and changing of mobo to a different make, but it appears as you said, just ring them up and explain the situation and you get activated.


Would I need to get a cpu cooler, I can't see anything mentioned?
And i'd need some thermal compound, unless the coolers have some compound on them already?


Just need a groovy dial up modem, unless I can reuse the one in the pc at the moment, but that's not major urgent.

So copying you build stulid, I got this, just a monitor and windows 7 added, but monitor maybe changed just got to read up about 23.6" and 24" aswell as windows maybe changed to oem, bit more reading about the change of motherboard needed.


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heatsinks are only supplied with the retail cpus, including thermal paste/pad pre-applied to the underside.

OEM cpu dont include anything, not even a nice fancy box and have a shorter warranty period.

im not to clued up on what good monitors are.
 
One last thing, when you say heatsinks, does that include the fan to go on top of them, I guess so? Also I'd need a sata cable for an oem dvd drive?
 
Really no need to be spending almost 80 quid on a 650W modular PSU for this build!! Go for something like the 400W corsair or even the 450W OCUK would be fine. Use the 40 quid saved to swap that DVD drive for the bluray drive I thought you wanted :). A bluray movie on that full HD 24" monitor is awesome. Even more worthwhile if you have/will have a HD TV in the lounge you might connect to now or in the future directly or via network/media server. I can't see streaming/downloading 50GB video files becomming the norm quite so soon.

Mobo should come with all the sata/ide cables you need.

Do you really need this dialup modem? I access an old email account via my broadband by just setting up outlook/pegasus mail/etc with the appropriate POP3 and SMTP server addresses. Or are you having to use a dial up internet service periodically just to keep this email account auto-expiring or something? Is your modem a PCI, or one of those AMR slot ones (a short slot only a couple of inches long that looks a bit like the short PCI express 1x slots)? If it's the latter you wont be able to use it on a new mobo. PCI would be OK though.

One last thing - correct me if I'm wrong, but that Asus mobo in your last shopping list doesn't seem to have graphics.
 
OK yer good idea, i'll change the psu and add a bluray drive.
Streaming bluray that would be cool, be years before that happens I'm sure.

Yes as you've said the dial up modem is to keep the account active, I have to connect to the account once every 120 days I think it is or else the account gets suspended/deleted.

Yes modem is the amr slot type, so I'll have to get a pci one.

The motherboard that I have in the list, the mobo has intergrated graphics and so does the i3 so, how would you use the igp of the i3?

Also I presume with this mobo that I can add a graphics card at a later date?

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that above build is looking good now.

only the i3 has a IGP which the H55 chipset of that motherboard allows to pass through to connectors for monitors on the back panel.

in the future, you just disable the graphics in the bios, add a graphics card to the pci-e slot, install the drivers, and bingo!
 
You said you were going to add a Bluray drive, but the drive in your shopping list isn't one, in case you didn't notice:)

I'd go for this mobo instead as it adds USB3 which will probably be useful in the future...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-239-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1124

PCI modem would be fine, or you can probably get a PCIexpress one. Hell you can probably get a USB one nowadays which might be cheaper and suit your occasional use.
 
stulid said:
The description of the asus does say it has 2 USB 3.0
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Errrrrrrrrr... not the Asus one the OP put on that last shopping list. The more expensive one at £112 does, but that's £20 more than the gigabyte. Gigabyte also has display port - ooooh :)
 
stulid said:
that above build is looking good now.

only the i3 has a IGP which the H55 chipset of that motherboard allows to pass through to connectors for monitors on the back panel.

in the future, you just disable the graphics in the bios, add a graphics card to the pci-e slot, install the drivers, and bingo!
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Oh okay, thanks for clearing that up, see noob. :rolleyes:


Liampope said:
You said you were going to add a Bluray drive, but the drive in your shopping list isn't one, in case you didn't notice:)

I'd go for this mobo instead as it adds USB3 which will probably be useful in the future...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-239-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1124

PCI modem would be fine, or you can probably get a PCIexpress one. Hell you can probably get a USB one nowadays which might be cheaper and suit your occasional use.
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Ah yes forgot about the drive, doh.

Just had a look at usb modems, prob just get one of them I think.


Liampope said:
Errrrrrrrrr... not the Asus one the OP put on that last shopping list. The more expensive one at £112 does, but that's £20 more than the gigabyte. Gigabyte also has display port - ooooh :)
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Your quite right, well spotted that man.
Display port, never heard it until you just mentioned it there. :rolleyes:
The monitor that I have listed is vga/dvi but I suppose be good for the future, just been watching a video about it.


I've changed the case, as its now back in stock and tbh I prefer it tbh, I'm sure that is the right case for that motherboard?
Question about the fans, it appears there's only one socket for a system fan and the case has three, does that mean I can only use one fan?

I'd completely forgot that we got a 1tb WD ide hard drive the other week, so I've taken the drive of my list, the mobo has a ide slot, so will be able to use that.

So think i'm there. :p
Is there anything else that I need to build this? I've just added a dvi cable to the list, the mobo comes with an ide cable, so I can use that fro the hard drive and 2x sata cables, so will use on of them for the bluray drive, but I think that's everything, no thermal compound, additional fans/cales needed for anything?


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Looks good to me.

There'll be acres of space in that case for that mobo - dont worry. In fact one thing i was going to post earlier was it's always my personal preference to go for a full size atx mobo unless you really want to cram everything into a teeny case for aesthetic reasons. Full size board is a bit less cramped so easier to work on, and offers more expansion opportunity. But then I looked at the H55 chipset range and realised you dont have much to choose from, and figured you're probably right to go for a microATX mobo. Especially as, given your intended usage, you'll probably never add that dedicated graphics card if you're honest, so there's only the modem and even that might be a USB, so how many expansion slots do you need. So i think you'll be fine with that mobo.

Dunno owt about fans, me. To be honest with no graphics card in there, just the one case fan helping to exhaust air from the CPU cooler is gonna be fine and help keep things quiet. If you really want to run them all and the mobo definately only supports one (my gigabyte mobo is bursting with fan connectors, though it is a UD5) then you might need one of them extra fan controller thingies that fits in a drive bay. Really dont think you'll need to bother with that system though.

Liam
 
Thought I replied to this yesterday, probably day dreaming again and didn't hit submit reply. :rolleyes:


Yer your right about the mobo, the modem might be the only thing I will add if its not a usb one.
Adding a graphics card is unlikely tbh but its nice to have the slot to add one if some super fandangled os comes out in the future and the igp of the i3 doesn't cut it.

As you say, i'm sure one fan will be fine, surely if gigabyte thought that things could get to hot they would added more sockets for additional fans.
I'll keep a eye on the temps buts it not like the cpu is going to be flat out 24/7

I'll show that to my folks tomorrow then, make sure there happy with everything and get it ordered.
Just got to build it then. (top gear stylee) 'how hard can it be' :p
 
Is this still a good build looking at the last pic, been about 4 months now and still not got around to getting parts. :rolleyes:


Don't need a bluray anymore, and i'll be getting windows 7 retail.
 
Still looks good to me. I'd change that £100 RAM to whatever's on offer this week. The patriot viper C7s for £70 for example.
 
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