4mph not 40.
Disabled women to pay £13k in compo
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4mph not 40.
supermarket shelves aren't that tall and loaded with that much heavy stock, nor are they made from a similar design.
also a mobility scooter isn't a forklift.
I have an 8 MPH disability scooter and it is insured for fire/theft and damage just the same as a car also for one million pounds liability insurance against claims from third parties. Cost is £55 per year through a company by the name of 'Fish' who specialise in these things although you can buy insurance from any reputable company.
The 4 MPH scooters are not allowed on the road, just Pavement and 8 MPH scooters are allowed on the road but must by law display 'Road Tax'. There is no charge for the Tax but the disk is just the same as the one found on cars and obtained from DVLA in the same manner. Where the cost is normally shown it says 'Disabled band'. It's an offence to ride an 8 MPH scooter on the road without this disk on display.
My scooter is very nippy and weighs over 125 Kg. I can assure you it would cause a nasty accident if driven into someone at any speed over 2 - 3 MPH.
The 4 MPH scooters are not allowed on the road, just Pavement and 8 MPH scooters are allowed on the road but must by law display 'Road Tax'. There is no charge for the Tax but the disk is just the same as the one found on cars and obtained from DVLA in the same manner. Where the cost is normally shown it says 'Disabled band'. It's an offence to ride an 8 MPH scooter on the road without this disk on display.
My scooter is very nippy and weighs over 125 Kg. I can assure you it would cause a nasty accident if driven into someone at any speed over 2 - 3 MPH.
If she's doing 15mph she's not in any mobility scooter sold in the UK under the exemptions they have, as previously mentioned any mobility scooter in the UK has to be either 4 or 8mph hour maximum speed to be used without a licence, and maximum of 4mph for legal use on the pavement.
I don't know about golf carts etc, but I've never seen a scooter that goes over 8mph for sale as a mobility scooter at any store, or even online due to the aforementioned legal restrictions*.
Having said that I wouldn't be too surprised if some people are using non exempt vehicles or modified ones.
*I've ended up looking at hundreds in the past 15-20 years due to my mum
and ridden dozens of different ones, from horrible 3 wheelrs, to quite luxurious 4 wheelers that probably cost about half a new car when new (some cost £3-4k new
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Soldato
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Awesome.
I swear people use these things like weapons when shopping. Same for mothers with buggys and prams.
'bout time one of the gits got put in their place.
I swear people use these things like weapons when shopping. Same for mothers with buggys and prams.
'bout time one of the gits got put in their place.
Diesel fumes.
some of them are faster than 4mph have you saw the massive ones for obese people?
they are very heavy.. I bet they could
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They may not have a high top speed but I bet they have, like, monster torques.
The 4mph thing really iritates me as the average person in the UK walks at nothing like 4mph and a lot of users seem to think the road speed is fine on the pavement. So you have these crazy uninsured mobility machines going way faster than the general flow being driven by people with no testing to ensure they are still capable. I'm not even slightly surprised by this court case or the outcome it's been a burining match under a haystack for years. Compulsory insurance is the way forward and a doctors certificate stating the user is physically/mentally capable would also be beneficial
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That is really interesting. I've just looked this up and yes, invalid carriages do need a nill vehicle excise licence. Failure to display is an offence.
Also bear in mind the legal definition of road is verge to verge and so includes the pathway. So even if you're not driving it on the carriageway, you are still committing an offence.
Apparently this is usually dealt with by fixed penalty. Awesome.
it's not just top speed. these things go FROM STANDING to top speeds like that!
I temped at a co that sold / rented these in the SW last year and the staff give very little training, it's mearly "this is go, let go to stop and here's how you put it in the car" often the users are old and infirm and would NEVER get a driving licence (hence why they want one)
I have also had one of these hit my (parked) car once because the idiot driving it couldn't handle the damn thing and there is often bugger all you can do.
from the mess it made of my bumper I'm glad I wasn't between him and the car at the time.
I've seen the 8MPH ones being used on the pavement and on a dual carriage way IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
either they need a CBT or similar or mandatory insurance.
Class 3 (8 MPH) scooters can take a 32st person (bariatric) thats 302KG add that to the weight of the scooter of 150+ batteries and you're nearly at half a tonne!
being hit at 8MPH by thats is enough to hurt anyone.
I temped at a co that sold / rented these in the SW last year and the staff give very little training, it's mearly "this is go, let go to stop and here's how you put it in the car" often the users are old and infirm and would NEVER get a driving licence (hence why they want one)
I have also had one of these hit my (parked) car once because the idiot driving it couldn't handle the damn thing and there is often bugger all you can do.
from the mess it made of my bumper I'm glad I wasn't between him and the car at the time.
I've seen the 8MPH ones being used on the pavement and on a dual carriage way IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
either they need a CBT or similar or mandatory insurance.
Class 3 (8 MPH) scooters can take a 32st person (bariatric) thats 302KG add that to the weight of the scooter of 150+ batteries and you're nearly at half a tonne!
being hit at 8MPH by thats is enough to hurt anyone.
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Why do so many people call a singular Woman 'Women'?
For the same reason many people use 'loose' instead of 'lose'
Not that my spelling or grammar is anything to go by
But i really cannot see how she can play the victim here at all.
I fully agree with the mandatory training and insurance.
If i flew around the pavement on a motorised scooter and took down a few people id be held much more liable than a disabled woman doing so!
On top of that how about making these machines more pedestrian friendly as previously stated these things having noting much in the way of protecting any pedestrian or unlucky cyclist caught in the headlights!
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Math fail.
I agree that they can weigh upwards of 300kg with a heavy person on board, and I can honestly say I don't wanna be hit by 300kg traveling at 8mph.
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well if you weigh 302KG and the machine weighs around say 150 with batteries then thats 450KG.
having said that I'm not sure if a class 3 CAN move 8 mph on flat witha 32st person onboard.
having just checked that 32st is like 203KG. so thats more like 350KG total.
got the 302 figure from the specs on a class 3 so maybe they transposed it?
having said that I'm not sure if a class 3 CAN move 8 mph on flat witha 32st person onboard.
having just checked that 32st is like 203KG. so thats more like 350KG total.
got the 302 figure from the specs on a class 3 so maybe they transposed it?
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Yes some move faster, 8mph for class 3, though they aren't designed for obese people specifically, they are designed for road use, if she was going more than the 4mph public walkway limit she could be in even more trouble.
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well yes that much is obvious
That wasnt my point however.
The stock wouldnt be what would kill or seriously injure somebody, it would be the falling shelf system.