Poll: Do you support the BA Cabin Crew 12 day strike at Christmas?

Do you support the BA Cabin Crew 12 day strike?

  • Yes

    Votes: 94 12.5%

  • No

    Votes: 656 87.5%
  • Total voters
    750
  • Poll closed .
scorza said:
If one of the reasons for the strike was to re-instate unpleasant members of staff, you'd kinda think they'd vote against it. I know I would.
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Well, support has been dropping each ballot :)

He's doing such a good job too - how much profit did they make last year? and how much profit do they expect to make this year? Only losses due to the volcano are beyond his control.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways#Corporate_affairs

BA has long had poor profitability based on its overall earnings. Walsh took over in 2005, generally, he's doing ok, considering he was brought in to sort out the 1999 onwards mess.

Yes, he's losing money via the dispute with unite, but the alternative (Capitulating and admitting that the union gets to set terms and business practices) is not an option and would be a disaster long term.
 
scorza said:
Nice bit of demonisation of women there. Do you have any evidence to back up this claim?
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How can anyone who regularly leaves their kids for several days and nights at a time be considered responsible for primary care?
 
stockhausen said:
All of them :confused:
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Not necessarily...

Do you have any evidence o support this assertion that BA are bullying union representatives and their staff solely as a result of spontaneous complaints by other members of staff about bullying and harassment :confused:
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Can you ask the same question without loading it and filling it with hyperbole.

Are you seriously pretending that Willy Walsh has suddenly become an outstanding example of a caring employer, deeply concerned about stopping bullying of his staff :rolleyes:
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I've said all along that his position is actually much fairer to the cabin crew than it has to be. I'm fully aware he's an evil capitalist type, but I've see far worse from bosses.

You do post some tosh :D
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Indeed, but you post absolute crap :D
 
Dolph said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways#Corporate_affairs

BA has long had poor profitability based on its overall earnings. Walsh took over in 2005, generally, he's doing ok, considering he was brought in to sort out the 1999 onwards mess.

Yes, he's losing money via the dispute with unite, but the alternative (Capitulating and admitting that the union gets to set terms and business practices) is not an option and would be a disaster long term.
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Why did BA make a record loss in 2009, when there were no strikes and passenger numbers stayed broadly flat with 2008? Looks to me like classic short-term managing, come in cut costs to the bone which will give you an immediate boost in profit and the staff can carry the pain for the first two or three years. Then it all implodes as you've accidentally the whole company.
 
scorza said:
Why did BA make a record loss in 2009 ...
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I believe that BA management (aka Willie Walsh) made a monumental misjudgement over forward buying of fuel and predicting the value of the GBP.

They did also have to pay fines of a few quid for their involvement in illegal fuel surcharge price-fixing although I believe that that particular scam was initiated by Willie's predecessor and he only failed to stop it.


I am sure that greedy and irresponsible BA cabin crew were in fact personally responsible for all of this in some way or another ;)
 
Dolph said:
Give Walsh another couple of months and he'll have everything in place to sack the lot of them.

I welcome it.
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Although I’d love all this to blow up horribly in there faces and all the strikers then get the boot. All that will happen is that they'll get jobs in other airlines and like parasites start striking there too for better pay.

socialists are like greedy locusts feeding off others
 
robgmun said:
Although I’d love all this to blow up horribly in there faces and all the strikers then get the boot. All that will happen is that they'll get jobs in other airlines and like parasites start striking there too for better pay.
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Well let's just hope no other airline are stupid enough to hire them :p
 
the cabin crew along with Unite are idiots. at this rate they will break the company and have no jobs at all. smart, really smart!


Willie Walsh is doing his best to get BA back into profit. he did it at Air Lingus, the markets believe he can do it again. given the poor results, ongoing disputes, ash clouds, bad weather its a miracle BA has a share price at all.

imho BA still provides a good service, prefer it above virgin.
 
stockhausen said:
Are you seriously pretending that Willy Walsh has suddenly become an outstanding example of a caring employer, deeply concerned about stopping bullying of his staff :rolleyes:
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nobody's said it

but i've read into that the the members of staff suspended were the ones trying to bully and harass other members of staff to tow the union line and to back the vote to strike, and reject the deal.

BA have already confirmed that during the strikes, some did turn up for work and arent interested in striking.

its my guess that those that have been suspended, have been suspended for trying to disuade these people from going to work.

BA has tried hard to clamp down on the strikers, hence the removal of the staff discount. I think this ties in with that. ANy of the strikers trying to force and drag other members staff onto their side through force or bullying tactics have been suspended.

I wouldnt back anybody that tries to force people into doing something they dont want to do through bullying.
 
Im sorry but a BA trolley dolly who serves chicken or beef and the odd beverage to a passenger gets paid the same as i do.

that a **** take

fit in or **** off lucky to have a job in this climate. They chose to strike and complain and they lost and got there benefits removed.
 
CraigN said:
Im sorry but a BA trolley dolly who serves chicken or beef and the odd beverage to a passenger gets paid the same as i do.

that a **** take

fit in or **** off lucky to have a job in this climate. They chose to strike and complain and they lost and got there benefits removed.
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If it's such an easy job with over-generous rewards, maybe you should apply for a cabin crew position at BA, rather than seethe with jealousy on the internet.
 
scorza said:
If it's such an easy job with over-generous rewards, maybe you should apply for a cabin crew position at BA, rather than seethe with jealousy on the internet.
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the point is, i have been made redundant before. i don't have the option to go on strike and hold my company to ransom. most people in the real world don't. why should they?

incidentally that Unite website posted above has to be a joke... surely???
 
gjrc said:
the point is, i have been made redundant before. i don't have the option to go on strike and hold my company to ransom. most people in the real world don't. why should they?
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So instead there should be a race to the bottom for employee rights? Just because you took a job with a bad employer doesn't mean that everyone else should have to.
 
scorza said:
If it's such an easy job with over-generous rewards, maybe you should apply for a cabin crew position at BA, rather than seethe with jealousy on the internet.
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I bet I could easily do the job, "chicken or beef", "coffee or tea" lmao with a small amount of training.

I am not jealous of the salary as I earn slightly more however it is obvious that BA workers are well over paid in the market compared with their competitors and still the employees moan.

BA is a business its not there to fulfil all of the employees wants. They should be grateful for what they have.
 
Just flicked through the times.

The average salary for BA’s 14,000 cabin crew, including bonuses and allowances, is £29,900, compared with £14,400 at Virgin Atlantic and £20,200 at easyJet.
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Are they on crack, striking?
 
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