North Korea supposedly torpedo South Korean Ship

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia_pacific/10129703.stm
A North Korean submarine's torpedo sank a South Korean navy ship on 26 March causing the deaths of 46 sailors, an international report has found.

Investigators said they had discovered part of the torpedo on the sea floor and it carried lettering that matched a North Korean design.

Pyongyang rejected the claim as a "fabrication", South Korea's Yonhap agency reported.

It said the North threatened war if sanctions were imposed by the South.

But South Korean President Lee Myung-bak pledged to take "stern action" against the North.
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"The attack demonstrates a total indifference to human life and a blatant disregard of international obligations"
William Hague, UK Foreign Secretary

The White House described the sinking of the ship as an "act of aggression" by North Korea that challenged peace.

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said the report was "deeply troubling".
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I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but this does sound ever so slightly fishy, I know NK as a country are a bit off their rockers, but it seems a bit of a coincidence that this would only be identified as them being the perpetrators because it has North Korean writing on it :confused:

Have SK or the US just fabricated a reason for attacking NK?
 
Abraham said:
Have SK or the US just fabricated a reason for attacking NK?
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No. They wouldn't destroy their own ship killing 46 people just so that they could say "look we've found a bit of a North Korean torpedo on the ocean bed!"

I'm sure if they wanted to feign an incident to give them a reason to attack they could come up with something a lot better than that.
 
seek said:
No. They wouldn't destroy their own ship killing 46 people so that they could say "look we've found a bit of torpedo on the ocean bed!"
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It just seems a weak justification that NK were responsible, a bit of writing on the torpedo in what looks like wax crayon.
 
seek said:
No. They wouldn't destroy their own ship killing 46 people just so that they could say "look we've found a bit of a North Korean Torpedo on the ocean bed!"
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I'm sure they might not. However can you be sure hat 46 people actually died?
Perhaps the South Koreans fortuitously "found" the motor and propeller of a North Korean torpedo inadvertently dropped by a US nuclear submarine conveniently close to a warship which happened to explode because of poor maintenance :eek:


/rushes off to root around in cupboard under stairs for NBC suit and tin-foil hat/
 
I'm sure the US is in no way looking for an excuse to attack North Korea, as that would lead to an incredible bloodbath and possibly WW3.
Dealing with the loonies in charge of NK is really tricky as they're so volatile that almost any action against them could provoke a military response - you've got to hope that China can apply some pressure against them to get them in check.
 
The North Korean lettering looks like someone was writing FAIL and got interrupted to me.

The day I'm about to have, I'd actually welcome nuclear Armageddon right now :(
 
I really don't know what to think of this one.
How do they know that the bit of torpedo was actually fired from a NK ship and not some left over from somewhere else? How about a NK torpedo which wasn't actually "controlled" by any NK subs?

I don't think NK are that stupid and I can see Seoul being levelled to the ground at this rate :(
 
Smit said:
I really don't know what to think of this one.
How do they know that the bit of torpedo was actually fired from a NK ship and not some left over from somewhere else? How about a NK torpedo which wasn't actually "controlled" by any NK subs?

I don't think NK are that stupid and I can see Seoul being levelled to the ground at this rate :(
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This is my real thoughts, I'm not saying it has to have been the US/SK but it seems unlikely it would have actually been NK
 
There's no mention of who the 'international investigators' are.
Was no Royal Navy ship in the vicinity? Did nobody pick up an SOS call? Is there any satellite imagery of any of this?
I'd just expect that if a ship was sunk, anywhere, it would have made the news at the time. Or did I miss it?
 
markweatherill said:
There's no mention of who the 'international investigators' are.
Was no Royal Navy ship in the vicinity? Did nobody pick up an SOS call? Is there any satellite imagery of any of this?
I'd just expect that if a ship was sunk, anywhere, it would have made the news at the time. Or did I miss it?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8650091.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8590485.stm
It did make the news
and NK denied it was them at the time:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8626710.stm
 
The other strange part to me is what was Kim Jong-Il visiting China for a month or so after this happened? Could be connected or completely unrelated
 
I don’t think that this has been engineered and it’s highly probably that NK are responsible for this.
 
The investigation was led by experts from the US, Australia, Britain and Sweden.
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The problem is that the experts from at least two of those countries are probably the same experts who said there was WMD in Iraq i.e. CIA & MI6 and therefore tainted. I'm sorry but I just don't believe them when they say North Korea did this.
 
from what I remember reading the article earlier it's not just the writing on the torpedo, it's the actual torpedo itself which is the type manufactured in NK. As for people suggesting it was SK, I highly doubt it.

At the end of the day, NK has a fruit loop as a leader, and I can't see anyone wanting to start a war with NK due to the insane numbers of people who would die. He'd have to do something incredibly bad to kick one off. What do you do though?

And I always wonder how people in Seoul can sleep knowing it could be levelled in hours!
 
Perhaps we should seek the advice of that renowned international conspiracy investigator Mr Mohamed "Fugger" Fayed; there must be some way that that Greek Prince Philip was involved :mad:
 
Smit said:
I really don't know what to think of this one.
How do they know that the bit of torpedo was actually fired from a NK ship and not some left over from somewhere else? How about a NK torpedo which wasn't actually "controlled" by any NK subs?

I don't think NK are that stupid and I can see Seoul being levelled to the ground at this rate :(
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[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia_pacific/10124939.stm

Part of a torpedo propeller is said to have been discovered on the seabed and traces of explosive found on the wreck are said to match that used in a North Korean torpedo recovered a few years ago.
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Not just a few bits of an old torpedo.

My personal view on what happens now is this:

South Korea will make a lot of noise, North Korea will make more threats of war and it will all die down in a couple of months time.

Meanwhile those brave sailors will have died for nothing and their families will see no justice for their sons/husbands/fathers.
 
MattTheTall77 said:
from what I remember reading the article earlier it's not just the writing on the torpedo, it's the actual torpedo itself which is the type manufactured in NK. As for people suggesting it was SK, I highly doubt it.
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Two issues with this:
Who's to say that it was that torpedo that hit the ship and hasn't been down there for years?

Who says it was NK that fired it? Sure it might have been made there but it doesn't mean it was fired from an NK sub
 
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