yeah, but PC games are nearly always £20-30 at launch, and also drop in price
I buy games for both remember. The £40 a game thing is always thrown in but it's just not true. It's not much different to quoting ** ***** prices for PC games/hardware.
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I buy games for both remember. The £40 a game thing is always thrown in but it's just not true. It's not much different to quoting ** ***** prices for PC games/hardware.
I agree with a lot of what you said, however I think a major point which is against the PC market these days, in terms of the "general user" is the proliferation of the laptop computer. (Not discussing enthusiasts, like us)
Five to Six years ago laptops/notebooks were a lot less common, people tended to buy desktops which were less expensive, these probably had a semi-decent GPU in too.These days you walk into any high street or somewhere like PC world and the amount of laptops they sell in comparison to desktops is quite startling.
I remember a couple of years ago when I worked in Gamestation whilst at university the amount of trouble we had with people buying a PC game, trying to run it on their crappy laptop they'd just bought from currys and then demanding a refund, I imagine it puts a lot of people off PC gaming unfortunately. Consoles are easier to use when it comes to gaming, it's just a fact; TV on, Disc in, Go. While you're quite right, they may not be a better experience, with a good TV and sound system, it's a pretty good gaming experience.
Ive been a long time pc gamer, cant play fps games on anything else wich are my choice of game but im growing weary, lack of games i like and local community on each platform is drawing me to a console, i purchased a 5850 for £200 and a q9450 totaling £330 4 months ago and they have had didly squat use, suppose that's more down to me than the situation of the market. really considering a console and a kb/mouse converter!
While they're good games, they're hardly recent. Mirror's Edge has been out for well over a year for one. I'd say most of those games bar FF13 has been out for 6 months+, Additionally, if we're looking at games that have been out for 6 months+, you can find the PC versions for even cheaper.
If we stick to new releases, then go and have a look at Game's "Cooming Soon" page, you'll see 95% of the PS3 and Xbox 360 games are £39.99. some even creep up to £49.99. Whereas the majority of PC games are £24.99, again new releases.
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If gaming companies listened to the community and re-created old games like UT 2000 and MoHAA into graphics like today and possibly did a slight gameplay tweak, then they would get more money for the PC games they re-create as they are currently releasing stuff that either get's a rare 'awesome' and a common 'meh' or 'okay'.
Currently, gaming companies ideas for games appear to be failing, they need to listen to their customers more as i've seen an increase in interest of people wanting old games to be re-made.
Currently, gaming companies ideas for games appear to be failing, they need to listen to their customers more as i've seen an increase in interest of people wanting old games to be re-made.
That's what they're trying to do, where have you been? People are commonly complaining about "More of the same".
I haven't seen a remake of Jedi Knight games up to Mysteries of the Sith, MoHAA or UT2000 on the shevles.
They usually cost full price for the first month or two. They were just the first few I spotted from looking at a bargain site. With a bit of sensible buying it's easy to buy cheap games, they drop in price very soon. I'm not saying PC games don't drop in price, I'm just saying there is no need at all to spend £40 on a game. Also, a sensibily bought console game can re sold for 80-110% of the buying price as they remain a 100% sellable item.
It's a bit like making the statement "Blu-Ray films cost £25" In a way, that's true, but at the same time it just isn't.
Oh and try shopto.net's coming soon page rather than GAME. There's a big difference.
My point was that a lot of the games made currently, people complain that they're rehashes of old originals.
Well if we do that, the average PC game price also drops down too, meaning my point about a PC being cheaper than a console once you have a collection of games still stands pretty well.
You have a point i won't deny that, but the bigger issue is that the majority of recent games are not rehashes of the original, but rehashes of the game that was released the year before with next to no significant improvements other than bells and whistles that either make the gameplay terrible or have no effect at all (see MW2 vs MW gameplay).
I mean rehashes of originals in terms of, the "original" game came out years ago, but these latest games are just poor imitations of those games.
MW to MW2 is a good example, but what I'm talking about more so is generic FPSes, a lot of generic racing games, all those sports games which are practically the same each year, just with new graphics.
EA sports games probably haven't changed much since the megadrive days except for better graphics.
I would expect that too. The average person still seems to think they can be charged for stuff via the internet without giving over any sort of details.
"Is this website free? Can I be charged for it? I won't be charged, will I? I don't trust the internet, that guy looking at me funny yesterday is going to try to steal my identity!"
The blank expression you get when you say "How do you expect to be charged for anything if you've not given out any of your payment details? What is it that they'll be charging?"
"What?
oh, erm, I dunno."
I would expect that too. The average person still seems to think they can be charged for stuff via the internet without giving over any sort of details.
"Is this website free? Can I be charged for it? I won't be charged, will I? I don't trust the internet, that guy looking at me funny yesterday is going to try to steal my identity!"
The blank expression you get when you say "How do you expect to be charged for anything if you've not given out any of your payment details? What is it that they'll be charging?"
"What?
it's a hang over from the old dial up days where you could be charged without giving details
it's a hang over from the old dial up days where you could be charged without giving details
I know
, that's why I said "still seems to think". Then again though, I've heard people say it who've never had the misfortune of having to use a dial-up connection.I've noticed that common sense seems to pour out of people's ears the instant technology is mentioned though.
In that case you could say that the average gamer might walk into ** ***** and buy a 4830 for £130
I know you meant original like going back 10 years but thats what the majority of 'series' are these days. The only real long running series i can think of that doesn't follow this trend is Final Fantasy who really go to lengths to change things between games for the best. Look at Grand Theft Auto, while it did initially change, that was mostly because of the advancements in technology that let them do third person instead of a top down, and since then its got worse and worse with even more stupid things been added that were effectively bells and whistles to what you actually bought the sodding game for and in the end they actually inteferred with the core gameplay.
it's a hang over from the old dial up days where you could be charged without giving details
*remembers the time my brother ran up a premium phone bill* what a tit
The average gamer would never do that. The average gamer doesn't get inside their PC. The average gamer is a console gamer. PC gamers are outweighed. The balance has shifted. The PC market is still big, but it's smaller than consoles, which is why it's priority has been readdressed.
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Nail and head springs to mind, people flapping about it are just making the issue worse than what it actually is, if you love gaming on PC then keep doing so, there will always be a market for it.
Thinking back to when I was kid it was exactly the same, Mega Drive and Nes were more popular than PC, PC never over took, it just became more popular, its exactly the same today