A good way to counter that though would be to upload the earlier mentioned recording ! That would scupper a few people. Go on Lazer ! You know you want to !
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A good way to counter that though would be to upload the earlier mentioned recording ! That would scupper a few people. Go on Lazer ! You know you want to !
I'm keen to know, if these people didn't call themselves mediums would anyone in this thread who does believe they can talk to the dead still have the same view? If they were just a person who could say a lot of stuff about you without knowing you but made no attempt to tell you how they did it, would your first instinct be 'Well, they're clearly talking to spirits'? Frankly, as I sat there wondering how it was done, that would be the last thought to enter my head.
The second they say they're a medium they've probably already drawn in the most suggestible people who won't even question their methods.
The second they say they're a medium they've probably already drawn in the most suggestible people who won't even question their methods.
Exactly what I've tried to put to lazer, he said he would presume they were psychic, further added to by his belief that Derren Brown is psychic but just doesn't know it.
Fair enough - we clearly have very different belief systems. Life on the planet would be pretty boring (and probably a lot more peaceful) if everyone had the same world view.
One last go at explaining where I'm coming from, even if we still disagree afterwards:
1. Someone tells you things that you didn't think they'd know
2. They tell you they know these things because a banana told them
Would you then believe that bananas know things and can communicate, or would you expect there to be a more plausible explanation?
What's the difference between believing in talking to dead people and talking to bananas?
Why not? You said you didn't speak at all, so we're not really going to be able to do much, other than hear what this guy allegedly said.
The only reason I can fathom is that he's just trolling
This is the conclusion that i've reached too, he was good at it for a while aswell. this second medium visit pushed my belief over the edge though.
likewise, 100 mile trip to disprove some people on the internet, resulting in him being told the same things in more detail.
What puzzles me about self-proclaimed 'Mediums' who supposedly communicate with the dead is.. Why would the 'dead' (Or any other intelligent entities) wish to communicate inane waffle about their old cat, how their Uncle's dog died, Auntie Nellie's bunions, or Grandpas love of porridge on a Sunday.. etc.? When there could be so much more profound communication transferred, it just makes so little sense to me personally that it can't possibly be true. I can definitely see how gullible fools will easily fall for it however.
Heh - just read the post where lazer apparently drove 100 miles to visit another medium.
Simply put, I think you're lying dude. I'm using my psychic power right now, and it's telling me that you didn't drive 100 miles yesterday to visit a psychic.
Simply put, I think you're lying dude. I'm using my psychic power right now, and it's telling me that you didn't drive 100 miles yesterday to visit a psychic.
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It was a load of crap indeed.
Ghosts next week, or whenever it's on. Not showing up for Monday? :s
Ghosts next week, or whenever it's on. Not showing up for Monday? :s
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So Lazer went on a 100 mile trip to prove us wrong - yeah OK.
It's quite funny that he 'recorded' the first one but this imaginary second visit he could have recorded it from getting out of his car to getting back into it to prove us wrong but guess what? - he forgot to record it.
I'll wait for the 500 mile round trip where he has got his mate to talk into the recorder.
It's quite funny that he 'recorded' the first one but this imaginary second visit he could have recorded it from getting out of his car to getting back into it to prove us wrong but guess what? - he forgot to record it.
I'll wait for the 500 mile round trip where he has got his mate to talk into the recorder.
its strange when you brake everything down, are these people out to deceive or give people a sense of hope?
If you look at it from the deceive angle you could argue that the church is the biggest con of all time. They believe in a god that not one can prove exists yet people have given millions throughout the years.
If you look at it from the deceive angle you could argue that the church is the biggest con of all time. They believe in a god that not one can prove exists yet people have given millions throughout the years.
There is a fundamental difference though, these people are either mental (think they're being spoken to by dead people) or outright lying when they say they're being told stuff. The church on a whole might present the same situation, but on a church by church basis I'd say they generally believe themselves, and aren't claiming to be anything special. Obviously if you look at evangelical christians/tv evangelists then you've got a much better comparision, they tend to say "god wants you to give me all your money" etc
Troll!! As if.
I went 100 miles out of my way because it was the only place that was holding an open day plus i wanted to get as far away from my home town as possible. As i stated, it was an experiment for myself and i have passed on the results here.
No way anyone can convince you lot on here anyway so why would i try to do that?
Some of you go on about hundreds of ways that a medium can get the info but you don't list those hundreds of ways!
I have seen 2 mediums now and they have both come up with very similar readings. Maybe the first medium took a pict of me and sent that to all the mediums in the UK with all the info just incase i decided to go to a different medium! lol
I really don't mind what you guys think. I am only posting my experiences. Tough if you don't want to believe them.
If i visit another medium some time in the future and get told similar facts i guess you lot will again put it down to either the medium knowing me or my family or me trolling again!! I wouldn't be able to win would i?
I would hate to go through life thinking that we live, die, and thats that. What would the point of it all be for?
I still stand by what i have said though. The 2 mediums i saw were spot on with thier facts. How? I really don't know. If someone on here can prove exactly how it was done, then great. I have my ideas and you have yours.
I went 100 miles out of my way because it was the only place that was holding an open day plus i wanted to get as far away from my home town as possible. As i stated, it was an experiment for myself and i have passed on the results here.
No way anyone can convince you lot on here anyway so why would i try to do that?
Some of you go on about hundreds of ways that a medium can get the info but you don't list those hundreds of ways!
I have seen 2 mediums now and they have both come up with very similar readings. Maybe the first medium took a pict of me and sent that to all the mediums in the UK with all the info just incase i decided to go to a different medium! lol
I really don't mind what you guys think. I am only posting my experiences. Tough if you don't want to believe them.
If i visit another medium some time in the future and get told similar facts i guess you lot will again put it down to either the medium knowing me or my family or me trolling again!! I wouldn't be able to win would i?
I would hate to go through life thinking that we live, die, and thats that. What would the point of it all be for?
I still stand by what i have said though. The 2 mediums i saw were spot on with thier facts. How? I really don't know. If someone on here can prove exactly how it was done, then great. I have my ideas and you have yours.
But, as a Christian, for me, it is not down to proof! I don't need any proof. Its all down to faith! 99.9% of Christians are not looking for proof. Only the 'unwashed
' look for proof! lolWhy should there be a point? A snake lives, dies and that's it. An oak tree lives, dies and that's it. A halibut lives, dies and that's it. Why should we be any different, its the absolute pinnacle of human arrogance if you ask me.
But, as a Christian, for me, it is not down to proof! I don't need any proof. Its all down to faith! 99.9% of Christians are not looking for proof. Only the 'unwashed
That's because 99.9% of Christians would refuse the proof if it was presented.
lol. One could say that organised religion feeds on the inability of some people to cope with life.