Since when was the NSL 35mph?

To be fair, the learning process doesn't prepare you for the motorway .

And it bloody well should. The learning process doesn't contain nearly enough real-world scenarios IMHO. Mind you, a 3 lane A-road is the same, people just have irrational stupid fears I suppose
 
And it bloody well should. The learning process doesn't contain nearly enough real-world scenarios IMHO. Mind you, a 3 lane A-road is the same, people just have irrational stupid fears I suppose

This is true, I've just done My Cat C, and literally all I did was drive around Mansfield town and suburbs at 30 mph, the odd bit of 40 mph and one minute of dual carriageway.

No motorway driving, no extensive 50 mph to judge my road positioning and confidence at speed.
Pretty much all I needed to be able to do is:

Moving off from the side of the road.
Negotiating traffic lights.
Going round mini roundabouts, or attempting to, as the truck as to long to go round them, it would usually just go straight over the top.


Thats not driving, its passing a test, and its wrong.
 

Whats LOL about it, its a fact some people are driving slower to save fuel, never used to be this many people driving so slow in NSL's around my area, coupled with an advertising campaign to reduce your speed and save fuel = people driving slower.

Granted you do get the muppets who drives slow simply because they suck at driving, but unless they have multiplied exponentially over the past 3 years i suggest something else is afoot.
 
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To be fair, the learning process doesn't prepare you for the motorway and I'd rather people admit they were scared and were over cautious than jump on a motorway thinkin their king of the road and make silly selfish mistakes.
Honestly though its not exactly a big deal, i have been driving just over a year and have only driven on a motorway once, because i havn't needed to any other times, not because i am scared. That one and only time i have driven on the motorway was fine to me, just like driving anywhere else, except the road is wider and you go a bit faster. I realy don't see the problem. I dislike narrow country roads a lot more than motorways
 
I was speaking to a client the other day who is a sales rep for a large car leasing company (so at least a slightly related job to driving) that does ~50k a year, and she honestly 100% seriously thought the speed limit on motorways was 85mph.

Absolutely no idea where she got it from, but she has been driving longer than I've been alive and all that time been convinced that it's 85!!! At first I thought she was winding me up, but she was totally serious to the point she googled to see if I was lying!!!

I give up on humans.
 
I guess some people are just... very nervous. An NSL does seem to take certain people out of their comfort zone, almost as much as the nightmarish "motorway".

i do wonder about the people who sit doing 50mph on the motorway on the inside lane with all the trucks overtaking them at 56mph.

I do wonder if you dont feel safe at any speed faster than 50mph, whether you should have a license at all ....
 
I wonder how many accidents are caused by people being overcome with rage from people doing silly slow speeds in front and doing reckless overtakes.

I nearly saw two yesterday.
 
A friend of mine updated her Facebook status the other day to pronounce that finally after 2 years of driving she had finally gone onto her first motorway. All her lady friends were commenting saying "Well done", "That's great" and "I'm still too scared" :confused:

mumsnet comes to mind :D
 
It was a really really nice evening yesterday evening. I was one of the 30mph dwindlers, just cruising along, 800 or so rpm, lapping up the sunshine in no rush. Maybe these other slow drivers were just in no rush?

Doesn't explain the flashing of the lights after you overtook, though :confused:
 
It was a really really nice evening yesterday evening. I was one of the 30mph dwindlers, just cruising along, 800 or so rpm, lapping up the sunshine in no rush. Maybe these other slow drivers were just in no rush?

Doesn't explain the flashing of the lights after you overtook, though :confused:

I had to drive a car with only 3rd gear down an NSL road. It was supprising how much more restful it was driving at 48, then at 65. Although some of the junctions took a bit of planning.

Generaly as for people who drive very slowely. You have to make allowences for peoples different levels of skill and confidence. You also have to consider what they're driving.

But when you start talking about people who drive at much lower speeds then the prevailing limit you have to ask weather they should be driving at all. Someone might only feel safe driving at 25 mph because they can barely see to the end of their bonnet.

As for training, I think motorway training should be mandatory. Maybe as well as having to submit your driving test certificate to the DVLA to upgrade your provisional you should also have to present a certificate to prove you've had some motorway training with a certified driving instructor.
 
I was stuck behind someone doing 35mph on a clear and safe NSL road for about 10 miles at the weekend with no opportunity to overtake. It doesn't help that I'm currently driving a woefully underpowered car which makes it much harder to overtake.
 
I think it's just more obvious nowadays because of the increase in the number of cars on the road. Link that to a roads strewn with odd speed limits and far more "road calming" measures (that often actively prevent safer overtaking) and you have a stuffed up road network.

For all that I remember only too well nearly being killed by some plonker 20 years ago whilst overtaking a line of traffic following the "35mph" sunday driver. Great visibility, massively long straight, all fine, until you get half way past doing 70mph, only to have some pratt in a Volvo pull out in front of you. Now that was a serious brown trowser moment. I wouldn't mind, but I didn't even get an apology, despite the billowing smoke from locked wheels.
 
Had no problems on a drive yesterday although did kind of expect some giving the car and noise it makes when I overtake (induction rawr y0 kicks in normally as I'm pulling alongside their rear).

Although the sexy diesel gold coloured 306 was driving quite erratically. Saw the young lad had a phone to his ear and just kept wafting round the corners then booting it on the straights up to about 55mph. Performed a nice overtake on a straight bit with ample visibility and I'm sure he put his foot down as the car really didn't disappear in the rear view mirror quick enough.

Just surprised I haven't had any flashy light, shaking hand 'self-pleasurer' signs or rammers have a go at me considering the car, speed and noise. But that could all start to change :p
 
For all that I remember only too well nearly being killed by some plonker 20 years ago whilst overtaking a line of traffic following the "35mph" sunday driver. Great visibility, massively long straight, all fine, until you get half way past doing 70mph, only to have some pratt in a Volvo pull out in front of you. Now that was a serious brown trowser moment. I wouldn't mind, but I didn't even get an apology, despite the billowing smoke from locked wheels.

I'm always reluctant to overtake a line of traffic from the middle or the back having had what you describe happen to me a couple of times.
If I'm on the bike I move right over to the right of the right lane and shove my lights on main just to be sure. If they can't see two 50W Xenon lamps with a further two 55W halogen spotlights coming up behind then I don't know what else I can do.
 
i do wonder about the people who sit doing 50mph on the motorway on the inside lane with all the trucks overtaking them at 56mph.

I do wonder if you dont feel safe at any speed faster than 50mph, whether you should have a license at all ....

I'm sure I'd feel decidedly less safe if I was stuck on the inside lane with trucks overtaking me at a few mph more than I was doing but then I don't generally have a problem with motorways anyway.
 
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