Ireland getting tough on net pirates

Participant · 25 May 2010 at 13:10

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Judging by this pic, they're particularly worried about the illegal downloading of porn

It's surely only a matter of time before UK net piracy in its P2P guise is stamped out and it all goes "underground" via encrypted newsgroup connections.

FoxEye · 25 May 2010 at 13:15

Plenty of infringing content on Rapidshare et al that goes undetected for years, if they obfuscate file names. Not sure how they're going to block that...

bledd · 25 May 2010 at 13:32

They don't get it..

They need to provide a good paid alternative service

grudas · 25 May 2010 at 14:11

bledd. said:
They don't get it..

They need to provide a good paid alternative service

they never will

FoxEye · 25 May 2010 at 14:34

Do they need to get it? They've been proving again recently that money talks.

They managed to impose their will onto individuals, companies, and even governments.

I remember when we were happily predicting that record labels were dinosaurs whose time was coming to an end. Doesn't look so likely anymore, does it.

It's amazing how much you can fight the future when you have an army of lawyers and lobbyists around.

bigredshark · 25 May 2010 at 14:41

FoxEye said:
Plenty of infringing content on Rapidshare et al that goes undetected for years, if they obfuscate file names. Not sure how they're going to block that...

The DEA includes a provision which could potentially allow then to require ISPs to block access to the entire site...

apatia77 · 25 May 2010 at 15:13

So they are after the uploaders ie torrent.

Thx god for ssl usenet.

Relentless81 · 25 May 2010 at 15:15

The first rule of usenet is you dont talk about usenet

apatia77 · 25 May 2010 at 15:17

Relentless81 said:
The first rule of usenet is you dont talk about usenet

Ahh, never knew that

Dazza_Random · 25 May 2010 at 16:21

i am still waiting on virgin to bring out its music service or whatever it is when it comes out...

bigredshark · 25 May 2010 at 16:42

apatia77 said:
Thx god for ssl usenet.

They'll be after the providers or indexing sites soon enough, again the DEA provisions to 'block access to an internet location' will likely be relevent here...

Usenet is in theory much easier to kill than peer to peer as it requires a fairly substantial investment to run a Usenet provider and it's a more niche thing to get going for users. They're only chasing torrents as they're far more prevalent.

Rezident · 25 May 2010 at 18:05

The banks are broke, the government is practically broke, the public transport is still worse than some third world countries I've been in, a pint can cost over a fiver (in a recession!), everything is more expensive here than in the UK (or anywhere else other than maybe Iceland), political corruption that puts the italians to shame plus one of the worst property crashes in history and yet this is what they choose to crack down on. Brilliant.

dave-lew99 · 25 May 2010 at 18:34

I say down with pirates to be honest, freeloaders irritate me.

That's not to say i haven't in the past, but i spend hundreds of pounds a year on DVDs and CDs, the problem i have is that the content often isn't worth paying for.

DVDs for example - far too many are badly encoded and just shoved out without any care taken over the producing the product (do these people have no pride in their work?)

Secondly, in the UK, premium TV is basically limited to Sky and VM. Both have adverts on the premium content which is often quite behind the US in terms of release.

If TV seasons were shown simultaneously (or within a day or two) in the UK as in the US, in the same available formats - HD with the DD audio at comparable data rates then it'd be worth having.

Fact is, if you pirate a TV show from the states, you'll get it in HD, with DD surround sound and without adverts! You can't even pay for that in the UK.

bigredshark · 25 May 2010 at 19:15

Rezident said:
political corruption that puts the italians to shame

What kind of drugs are you on if you actually believe that? Our political system is one of the cleanest going and is acknowledged as such every year by international indexes. You should probably get out more and try living somewhere with actual problems...

Si105 · 25 May 2010 at 19:19

The 2nd rule of usenet is you dont publicly speak about the rules of usenet.

FoxEye · 25 May 2010 at 20:07

bigredshark said:
What kind of drugs are you on if you actually believe that? Our political system is one of the cleanest going and is acknowledged as such every year by international indexes. You should probably get out more and try living somewhere with actual problems...

Think he's in Ireland not the UK.

Kev_19 · 27 May 2010 at 12:04

Rezident said:
The banks are broke, the government is practically broke, the public transport is still worse than some third world countries I've been in, a pint can cost over a fiver (in a recession!), everything is more expensive here than in the UK (or anywhere else other than maybe Iceland), political corruption that puts the italians to shame plus one of the worst property crashes in history and yet this is what they choose to crack down on. Brilliant.

It was IRMA - the Irish Recorded Music Association who actually brought this about. The current Irish government wouldn't organise a **** up in a brewery nevr mind trying to crack down on internet piracy.

iNPUt · 27 May 2010 at 12:14

dave-lew99 said:
If TV seasons were shown simultaneously (or within a day or two) in the UK as in the US, in the same available formats - HD with the DD audio at comparable data rates then it'd be worth having.

Fact is, if you pirate a TV show from the states, you'll get it in HD, with DD surround sound and without adverts! You can't even pay for that in the UK.

The time it takes TV series to get the UK is stupid, they expect people to wait that long? They must be crazy.

Azuse05 · 27 May 2010 at 13:05

That's because companies won't release in any par of western Europe until translation has been done to the most common languages (French, Spanish etc) even though we speak English.

The music industry is making more money than ever, it's the recording industry that's struggling because a download is simply more convenient, you don't have to buy the whole album etc. Same thing happened when cds superseded cassets.

Futile but that's never seems to matter

Cycrow · 27 May 2010 at 19:58

TV hasn't been all that bad recently, there are a few shows that are getting very close release here.

the new season of NCIS was only a few days behind the states, stargate universe was only less than a week behind. And when SG-1 and Atlantis were still going, the 2nd part of the season were actually aired here before the states.

Lost is even getting aired at the same time, exactly the same time as well.
I just hope this trend continues and more shows will get closer releases.

i very rarely buy dvd's anymore, no real need, most of them i only watch once and just end up filling up my house

i just joined LoveFilm instead and rent a large number of films instead.

i do hope they dont get out of hand with trying to stop piracy by simply stopping things like BitTorrent full stop, as it has plenty of legitimate uses