nothing yet
i told him to txt me when he arrives
will keep you all updated but theres a chance he might be too embarrassed to say he got turned back so he might make up some BS reason for coming back early or fake the holiday
we shall see
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nothing yet
i told him to txt me when he arrives
will keep you all updated but theres a chance he might be too embarrassed to say he got turned back so he might make up some BS reason for coming back early or fake the holiday
we shall see
Technically, if you go the US and have ever been arrested in your lifetime whether its resulted in a conviction or not (Simple warning/formal caution/released without charge) if you tick the "yes" box on the online VWP application form for that question - it'll get denied. Likewise if you tick "yes" to the same box on the card they give you on the plane, I can say with 99.9% certainty that you'll be on the next plane back....
If you've ever been arrested, to legally enter the US you need to go to the embassy and get a Visa, for which you'll most likley need to provide your own CRB check.
However...
It is a fact, at this point in time the US have no access to our criminal records database - I heard it from the foreign secretary himself! in the UK the CRB checks system is still very *slow* indeed and there are only certain strictly regulated agencies who can access it an do checks. The TSA or other agencies outside of europe have absolutley no access to it whatsoever and its extremley unlikey they will anytime soon.
The US maintains several watch lists, one of which is interpol, most of these are terrorist or organised crime oriented, so its extremley unlikley your friend would be on any of those. Otherwise he'd be denied when he filled in the online VWP, or before he tried to board the plane when the airline sends the passenger manifest to the TSA before it takes off.. (new measures after the Christmas day bomber)
You have to be a terrorist or part of organised crime to be on any of those watch lists, you don't end up on there for standard stuff.
So, either go to the embassy and get a Visa - or just tick no and deny all knowledge, (if you can handle the stress) and provided your not a terrorist or anybody with a serious past - theres no possible way they can know about it...
If you've ever been arrested, to legally enter the US you need to go to the embassy and get a Visa, for which you'll most likley need to provide your own CRB check.
However...
It is a fact, at this point in time the US have no access to our criminal records database - I heard it from the foreign secretary himself! in the UK the CRB checks system is still very *slow* indeed and there are only certain strictly regulated agencies who can access it an do checks. The TSA or other agencies outside of europe have absolutley no access to it whatsoever and its extremley unlikey they will anytime soon.
The US maintains several watch lists, one of which is interpol, most of these are terrorist or organised crime oriented, so its extremley unlikley your friend would be on any of those. Otherwise he'd be denied when he filled in the online VWP, or before he tried to board the plane when the airline sends the passenger manifest to the TSA before it takes off.. (new measures after the Christmas day bomber)
You have to be a terrorist or part of organised crime to be on any of those watch lists, you don't end up on there for standard stuff.
So, either go to the embassy and get a Visa - or just tick no and deny all knowledge, (if you can handle the stress) and provided your not a terrorist or anybody with a serious past - theres no possible way they can know about it...
nothing yet
i told him to txt me when he arrives
will keep you all updated but theres a chance he might be too embarrassed to say he got turned back so he might make up some BS reason for coming back early or fake the holiday
we shall see
Damn long flight, this pal of yours in on!
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I have an Egyptian stamp in mine which also includes several stickers and a huge square stamp covering half the page which is full of Arabic writing. It's hard to tell the whole thing is Egyptian. I get questioned every single time I show it whenever I'm flying to the US.[TW]Fox;16614545 said:
But as a white Brit with just that one stamp, and lots and lots of stamps to other holiday-type places, it's never been any trouble beyond a couple of questions.
They tend to ask what it is and I say it's a holiday stamp, and they move on.
They generally look to gauge your reaction rather than what you say
Dont lie the Americans are loony strict about who comes in and out, not that surprising I guess, just tell them and I doubt what he did will get him barred. Lying on the other hand will probably see him straight back on the plane with a nightstick up the wrong un to keep him company on the journey back
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I love the way that the airports at America and Australia are like the check-in to Auschwitz, taking fingerprints and checking if someone has brought in a packet of nuts which could obliterate the entire ecosystem and yet other countries like Portugal and don't give a **** and you walk literally 10m from the terminal entry door out onto the street after some biddy glances at your passport.
I went to the Republic of Georgia at the Time of Shevadnadze and I was genuinley scared as I was surrounded by soliders holding kalashnikovs and they were looking at my passport for a good 5 minutes. Then they smiled at me through twisted mouths saying welcome to Georgia.
Did you get a visa beforehand or fill in a visa waiver?
nothing yet
i told him to txt me when he arrives
will keep you all updated but theres a chance he might be too embarrassed to say he got turned back so he might make up some BS reason for coming back early or fake the holiday
we shall see
It's okay I just checked his twitter:
'okay they got out a box labelled 'gloves''
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I'm surprised he made it in with credit card fraud... That's not exactly a petty crime!
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How can they check? He did not declare it and unless he looks proper dodgy, he won't be hauled in to a room to check it. They don't have this super friggin DB that is hooked up to a real time link with the PND for god sake, we struggle to be able to check from county to county what people have done!!!
I will collect my £100 wager soon.
I will collect my £100 wager soon.
[TW]Fox;16614545 said:
I have Iranian and Algerian Visas/stamps in my passport and it used to get me some serious questions everytime I flew into Houston. I once even got dragged off in a interview room for "further questions". Strangly most of the questions were about who I worked for rather than what I was doing in those countries (I guess because US has an embargo on Iran).
I've got a full L1B US visa now so I cant work over there and everything and life at imagration just became really easy.
Strangly I also always get asked if I have ever lived in Detroit everytime I go into the US. Its weird and when I ask about it they wont tell me why they ask.
I have an Egyptian stamp in mine which also includes several stickers and a huge square stamp covering half the page which is full of Arabic writing. It's hard to tell the whole thing is Egyptian. I get questioned every single time I show it whenever I'm flying to the US.
But as a white Brit with just that one stamp, and lots and lots of stamps to other holiday-type places, it's never been any trouble beyond a couple of questions.
They tend to ask what it is and I say it's a holiday stamp, and they move on.
They generally look to gauge your reaction rather than what you say
I have the same Egyptian stamp, as well as a set of Tunisian stamps which are much less over the top, that's it (no other stamps) and when I went to the US at the end of 2008 they uttered not a word. TBH I can't see how they would work themselves up with that as a lot of the middle eastern/north African countries are massive tourist destinations.
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Thread failed to deliver. But my sister in law over stayed her visa and has been back since and again over stayed so obviously not that strict???
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What's the big deal about that though? Pesumably she paid the fine each time. There's no law about being banned because of an overstay.
If you're not allowed back into a country at the time of leaving it then it should state this on your passport when it is stamped. Otherwise you can go back no questions asked.
Try the Slovakian immigration monkeys. Communist throwbacks that's just gagging to find anything, anything at all to irritate your day. I especially love it when they ask me a question in Slovak ... as if I'm supposed to be fluent. They would look at you as if you're taking the **** if you don't speak the language.
But the Americans is the worst. I have had some thick idiots at border control ask me the most inane questions and look perfectly serious about it.