Apple is now bigger than Microsoft

Unless all businesses and the general public out there switch to Mac's and apple software, i don't think MS has anything to worry about.
 
Going right back to the OP...

It's a little silly comparing revenues from MS and Apple now. Maybe in the past but not now... Apple are an electronics manufacturer with a sideline in software and Microsoft are a software company with a sideline in hardware. I think something stupid like 10% of Apples revenue is actually from macs, which to me means they should be compared to electronics manufactrers like Sony. From a quick google Sony made around $80B a quarter last year (or maybe year, the article doesn't make it clear, still around $5B more than Apple), just shows how small a company Apple still is. Follow on that and look at Laptop sales, Acer dwarfs macbook sales on their own, selling something lik 4x the amount of laptops themselves.
 
eatcustard said:
Apple is the master of marketing
it makes a market and everybody buys into it.
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What market have they actually made?

I agree they are experts at marketing but not making markets, instead making their product seem to be the first in that market.

For example their last 3 products...

mp3 players selling well before the iPod came around, Apple released one with loads of marketing and captured people.

Smartphones had been around for years (even in the iPhone form factor) but Apple spent loads of money on advertising to the consumer and pulled them into the consumer world instead of the business word. In fact you could argue that RIM had already started the shift, Apple just advertised their product in that space. Didn't help them beat Nokia or RIM in the market share however, in fact they have also lost out to Android now.

Slate devices had been around for years but the tech was never really good enough so they were advertised as a business model. This year comes along and the tech has caught up with the dream so dozens of companies have started making them, with a couple of dozen or more promoted at the beginning of January, to almost no marketing. Apple meanwhile comes along a few weeks later and shows off theirs, marketing like mad, and all of a sudden the iPad appears to be the one that everyone else is copying... Odd, considering it was one of the last to be shown to the world. :p
 
Apple will try to make even the most basic of tasks sound like the re-invention of the wheel or discovery of fire. It was only a year or so ago that they were pronouncing the super amazing copy/paste text feature was it not?

Nice....
 
Khaaan! said:
Apple will try to make even the most basic of tasks sound like the re-invention of the wheel or discovery of fire. It was only a year or so ago that they were pronouncing the super amazing copy/paste text feature was it not?

Nice....
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Watch how they spin the the awesomeness of multi tasking....:p

Cant wait for their ads...they do make me laugh....yep we have an app for that...now if they had an app that could do my crap for me without me using the loo...ill be seriously impressed in fact id throw away my Desire and my BB9700:D

Saying that im looking forward to getting my hands on my ipad:p..hopefully should have it in 2 weeks time as i asked my old man to pick up one for me...
 
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"yep there is a app for just about anything"


that is quite worrying and concerning tbh

what next Iphone/pod helping you find your next meal (opps too late)
 
EVH said:
You are comparing the cost of a 4 core workstation with XEON processors to a consumer gaming rig.
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Could afford a 980x for the price of the 8 core apple workstation, with money to spare and little performance difference.

EVH said:
As you say.. that may not be suitable for what you're doing; a gaming PC is useless if you don't need it.
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Well that's what it cuts down to, my friend in work is adamant that he needs a mac for his uni work, though I'd never buy one myself. Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom!
 
PardonTheWait said:
Sure for some people it's fashion, but do you think the entire print industry uses them because they're fashionable? Do you think there are hundreds of thousands of pre-press workers around the globe in windowless rooms hammering out 95% of the printed matter you consume, on Macs, because of fashion? Or because they're better for the job?.
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Whilst Adobe don't publish sales by platform, Jeff Schewe - a well known Photoshop tester / developer with extensive contacts within Adobe - wrote:

By MSFT's own numbers (can't tell you how I know) the "professional graphic market" (whatever you want to interpret that being) is -STILL- about 60/40 Mac ...I don't know the exact pro photo %, but it's prolly more like 50/50 or possibly 60/40 Win. I don't know exactly what Adobe's platfrom % is, but given a lot of "prosumers" (who tend to be Win) also buy pro software, I'm pretty sure that Adobe is more like 60/40 to 65/35.

Those are the realities, but for the sake of this discussion, not really all that important. Adobe ain't about to leave any market that has important revenue, so Adobe will keep making software for Mac & Windows. It's pain to be so platform agnostic, but that Adobe's position...
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That was written around the time of CS3. CS4 Photoshop had the benefit of being 64bit on Windows whilst OSX had to chug along on 32 bit.

The design market is nowhere near as Mac saturated as is often made out. My PC has Extensis suitcase and CS4 suite, and is quite capable of running the software just as well as a Mac.

95% Mac? Maybe in 1990.
 
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Interesting how many people keep saying that Bill has dropped the ball / Bills made a mistake / etc. yet Bill has left for a good while now.

Microsoft make a ton of money on licencing and, as more and more companies upgrade, will have a constant stream of revenue (this after getting shafted by the money hungry European courts). So I don't expect them to disappear anytime soon, people who buy the iPad and crap like that really ought to have there head examined. It's a tablet, you can buy a tablet on any other O/S for half the price. Sigh.



M.
 
m4cc45 said:
this after getting shafted by the money hungry European courts
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It always amazes me that MS fanbois are constantly bringing this up. You know there's an easy way for companies to not get shafted by money hungry EU courts - it's called complying with the law. A bit of a novel concept for American companies I grant you...
 
scorza said:
It always amazes me that MS fanbois are constantly bringing this up. You know there's an easy way for companies to not get shafted by money hungry EU courts - it's called complying with the law. A bit of a novel concept for American companies I grant you...
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I don't really see an argument between "MS Fanboys" and Apple Fanboys.

Most people probably like Microsoft because they allow them to do their job in offices or wherever compared to the handful of people who work on macs.

I wouldn't really take anything you said credibly though, as you seem to think an iPhone is "a bit more special" than an Android phone, which is quite frankly, one of the most incorrect and amusing things I have ever read.
 
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