Cage fighter "ripped out heart" of training partner!

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Holy .... :eek:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ter-ripped-out-heart-of-training-partner.html

Jarrod Wyatt also cut out his friend's tongue and ripped off most of his face in a brutal assault that police said looked like a scene from a horror film.

They found the 26 year old standing naked over his friend's body with body parts, including an eyeball, strewn around the blood splattered room.
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They'll never be able to charge him with first degree murder if the info about the mushrooms is true, will they?
 
Rubbish about the mushrooms, takes a lot to send someone mental, its not like just drinking tea, you know what you are drinking and can tell with the taste.

Looks like someone is getting an easy sentence due to insanity.
 
Kristoph said:
They'll never be able to charge him with first degree murder if the info about the mushrooms is true, will they?
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iirc you can't use intoxication as an exucse (although i think it's difference if you are given the drug unknowingly)



cheets64 said:
Looks like someone is getting an easy sentence due to insanity.
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Life in a secure hospital is hardly easy.

At least in prison you get a parole date.
 
Insanity seems reasonable to me. Theres no motive for the murder, no attempt at destroying evidence or fleeing the scene. If he's never had a history of violence then he's almost certainly not guilty and only guilty of possession of mind altering substances.
 
cheets64 said:
Rubbish about the mushrooms, takes a lot to send someone mental, its not like just drinking tea, you know what you are drinking and can tell with the taste.
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Loads of drugs can cause psychotic episodes, from the NMDA antagonists like ketamine to the serotonin agonists like lsd. Many have no taste, so no it's not rubbish.

Tefal said:
iirc you can't use intoxication as an exucse (although i think it's difference if you are given the drug unknowingly)
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If the person was spiked then they have a complete defence against murder.
 
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never had the urge to do this back in the days,
build dens in woods, and talk to socks on washing lines " yes " rip a heart out of a living person " no "
 
cheets64 said:
Rubbish about the mushrooms, takes a lot to send someone mental, its not like just drinking tea, you know what you are drinking and can tell with the taste.
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The story only says that the tea was spiked as far as I could see, not that he was unaware of the presence of the drugs. Without further information it's difficult to say if it would make any difference or indeed if he could taste it but frankly I think the chap has bigger problems to begin with than the possibility of not tasting drugs.

Energize said:
If the person was spiked then they have a complete defence against murder.
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I don't know about American law and I haven't researched English law in any great depth but that seems to be overstating the case slightly, it would be fairer to say that they may have a complete defence according to some commentators I think.
 
semi-pro waster said:
I don't know about American law and I haven't researched English law in any great depth but that seems to be overstating the case slightly, it would be fairer to say that they may have a complete defence according to some commentators I think.
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At english law he would not be guilty of murder but manslaughter through diminished responsibility, that is if the facts of the case are true. A lot of questions need answering tbh.
 
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