Dr. Kay Segler, BMW M GmbH's Managing Director, confirms the 1-Series M and Turbo M5

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Shortly after BMW's victory at the 24h @ the Nurburgring, Dr. Segler, the director of BMW M GmbH sat down to give an interview with the German language publication Auto News, where he comes right out and confirms the BMW 1-Series M. He goes on to say the car will arrive in the second quarter of 2011.

Whats also notable from the interview is that Mr. Segler basicly comes out and says the car will not be called the M1. He feels that the name is reserved in history by the original M1, think NBA jerseys in the rafters. He of course, would not divulge the exact name the new car will arrive with as I'm sure that is still a highly kept secret within BMW until they put out the official press release. The car will be in some way based on the 306hp 135i Coupe, and will be produced in limited numbers, mainly owing to its limited remaining lifespan, this time think Z4 M Coupe/Roadster.

Dr. Kay Segler also touched upon the upcoming BMW M5 for 2011. The car will come down in cylinder count to 8-Cylinders (from the current 10) and also introduce turbocharging for the M5. As you might have already guessed, this is the same engine that BMW has recently shoehorned into the X5 and X6 M, namely the BMW S63 engine (4.4L twin turbo, twin scroll, direct injection). The engine will be different and tweaked some more, numbers were not divulged but I believe the car would come in at the 585-600HP mark. BMW M's goal with this car is a "Two Cars in One" philosophy, meaning that the car would be a civilized daily driver, but at the literal touch of a button transform into a racetrack eating beast. Dr. Segler certainly sounded proud in their accomplishment of this goal!

Next, the conversation turned to the possibility of Diesel cars in BMW M products. While he certainly did not knock them out (he even says they have great potential), he believes that at this time they don't technically fit into the BMW M paradigm. Much of it has to do with their lack of high-revs and also lack of demand in the most important BMW M market, the USA.

In their discussion, the topics of sales figures came up and Mr. Segler talks about the tough times that were encountered overall for BMW M in 2010, but he did sound off an optimistic note. The BMW M director has a positive outlook for 2011 based on growth in Asia, especially China and a general world-wide economic rebound that is in progress. In his final remarks, Dr. Segler talks about how he wants BMW M to increasingly cater to a more youthful market, putting my two cents in on that statement, I hope to see more cars like the 1-Series M and more speciality CSL/GTS type cars coming out of BMW M.
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Pictured: Head of BMW's M division and early pictures of the 1 Series M car

I look forward to hearing about the preformance of this 1-Series M car and I look forward to what turbo charging the M5 does to its preformance.
I don't think diesels belong in BMW's M department they don't sound "special" enough imo.
 
F10 M5 sounds absolutely amazing. Long time before I can ever have one, though, so realstically I'm more interested in how its styling shapes the M Sport F10 :)
 
[TW]Fox;16674900 said:
F10 M5 sounds absolutely amazing. Long time before I can ever have one, though, so realstically I'm more interested in how its styling shapes the M Sport F10 :)

Not interested in the supposed "M1" then?
 
I'm not really sure what its going to offer that will be so much better than the existing and considerably cheaper 135i M Sport. 306bhp from a 1 Series is far from bad!
 
[TW]Fox;16674917 said:
I'm not really sure what its going to offer that will be so much better than the existing and considerably cheaper 135i M Sport. 306bhp from a 1 Series is far from bad!

Very true. Still I look forward to seeing the visual changes they make to the car.. I love the backend but the front is just meh :( .
 
[TW]Fox;16674887 said:
He has the best job in the world.

Ruining the reputation of one of motoring's most loved Brands? :o

I love forced induction, but on a M-Car? Do not want.
 
[TW]Fox;16675019 said:
Yea, imagine a forced induction BMW performance car. Not like we've had those since the 1970's.

Funny after reading his comment I started looking at 2002 websites :p
 
Ruining it? Care to elaborate?

Maybe "ruin" is the wrong word, but they are certainly changing the M-Brand. I know and love M Cars for their spine tingling screaming Naturally Aspirated engines, throughout the years it has always been their niche and changing it sort of marks the end of the brand as we know it (Like I'm sure people must have felt similarly at the end of e34 M5 production when they were no longer handbuilt).

[TW]Fox;16675019 said:
Yea, imagine a forced induction BMW performance car. Not like we've had those since the 1970's.

But never on a M Car, and arguably the forced induction cars were purchased by a completely different type of buyer. What real justification is there for a M3 when a 335i can offer similar real world performance for a fraction of the cost? Other than the "farefare" I cannot see many reasons, and surely you'd agree that the nature of the engine is the corner stone of the experience?
 
Maybe "ruin" is the wrong word, but they are certainly changing the M-Brand. I know and love M Cars for their spine tingling screaming Naturally Aspirated engines, throughout the years it has always been their niche and changing it sort of marks the end of the brand as we know it (Like I'm sure people must have felt similarly at the end of e34 M5 production when they were no longer handbuilt).

The E39 M5 doesn't have a high revving screaming engine...

But never on a M Car, and arguably the forced induction cars were purchased by a completely different type of buyer. What real justification is there for a M3 when a 335i can offer similar real world performance for a fraction of the cost? Other than the "farefare" I cannot see many reasons, and surely you'd agree that the nature of the engine is the corner stone of the experience?

The E92 M3 offers a 33% power gain over the E92 335i and as a result is a noticeably faster car.
 
[TW]Fox;16675113 said:
The E39 M5 doesn't have a high revving screaming engine...

But it does have an incredibility linear powerband that a turbocharged car will almost certainly struggle to match. I know the advances in variable vain turbochargers and the like have help to reduce "lag" but I'm sceptical that'll ever be completely eliminated.

[TW]Fox;16675113 said:
The E92 M3 offers a 33% power gain over the E92 335i and as a result is a noticeably faster car.

Hmm, fair enough!

I'm almost tempted to bring up the whole "remapped" 335i argument, but I'm sure I'll catch a fair bit of flak for comparing a Standard car to a modified one :p.
 
If it's good enough for the M Director then it will be good enough for M car buyers!
 
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