20th Century fox vs Newzbin

How is this discussion not against OC piracy rules?

Because South Park is completely legal to watch or so I was led to believe.
If I have made a mistake then Mods please pull the posts and slap my hands.

And Tefal, how can it be a lot of effort?

Your way (and my way a lot of times) -

1) Search for NZB
2) finds it, hopefully it's OK and all there, download

My way -

1) Search for PAR2 file
2) Finds it and have a lot more choice, decides to definitely make sure all the files are there so in less than a second click on it
3) Yeah, they are all there and I'm not taking a chance, download

I have one more click that actually shows me all the files, where you put it into your downloader and check if all the files are there (or perhaps you don't bother).
If I want to take a chance then I skip 2.
 
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Because South Park is completely legal to watch or so I was led to believe.
If I have made a mistake then Mods please pull the posts and slap my hands.

And Tefal, how can it be a lot of effort?

Your way (and my way a lot of times) -

1) Search for NZB
2) finds it, hopefully it's OK and all there, download

My way -

1) Search for PAR2 file
2) Finds it and have a lot more choice, decides to definitely make sure all the files are there so in less than a second click on it
3) Yeah, they are all there and I'm not taking a chance, download

I have one more click that actually shows me all the files, where you put it into your downloader and check if all the files are there (or perhaps you don't bother).


no mine is type into newzleech > look at list + completion percentage right next to it click for it to make the enzb for 1 or as many items as selected.
 
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Im sure though sites like xepisodes.com were actually allowed. Heard or read it somewhere, a year or 2 ago

Yea, I'm pretty sure I've heard Matt & Trey say in the past that they don't mind people viewing their material through dodgy means, was quite a while ago though.
 
1) Search for NZB
2) finds it, hopefully it's OK and all there, download

My way -

1) Search for PAR2 file
2) Finds it and have a lot more choice, decides to definitely make sure all the files are there so in less than a second click on it
3) Yeah, they are all there and I'm not taking a chance, download
Maybe this is where I'm getting confused. Are you saying people search for the .nzb on usenet itself? The site I use somehow automatically compiles the nzb from the raw data. It relies on people reporting erroneous collections rather than relying on people to upload collections in nzbs.

The analogy of having more par2 files than nzbs was just stupid. One nzb can have a hundred par files in it (which is why I thought he didn't know what he was talking about). Mine tend to come with all par files for a given collection but SABnzbd doesn't download them unless there is a problem with the rar CRC check. If I'm truly stuck then I will search through the articles myself and make my own nzb.
 
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Oh man I didn't even see that quote. How is it not the most efficient way?
If people's downloads are failing by doing it that way then they're just doing it wrong.
 
Maybe this is where I'm getting confused. Are you saying people search for the .nzb on usenet itself? The site I use somehow automatically compiles the nzb from the raw data. It relies on people reporting erroneous collections rather than relying on people to upload collections in nzbs.

The analogy of having more par2 files than nzbs was just stupid. One nzb can have a hundred par files in it (which is why I thought he didn't know what he was talking about). Mine tend to come with all par files for a given collection but SABnzbd doesn't download them unless there is a problem with the rar CRC check. If I'm truly stuck then I will search through the articles myself and make my own nzb.

You're teaching me how to suck eggs.
There are better ways and ways with a lot more choice - simple as that.
As an Admin on Newzbin (3 years ago) and United Forums (up to 4 weeks ago) I had free paid access to other major sites and I know the method that worked best and best for other team members.

I know how it all works and I know a little bit about how the scripts on some sites pull it all together but you rely on other posters doing the work and wasting their time.
It's threads like this that make me wonder why I did it for all those years being a major contributor to the NZB scene and I suppose Leechers (like yourself) do have that 'I'm OK I can get what I want and my way is best' attitude without realising where it came from in the first place.

<serious mode>
This thread has now made me make the decision to cease activities which took up a lot of my time so at least I can thank some of you for that.

I need to get out of this thread now.
 
You're teaching me how to suck eggs.
There are better ways and ways with a lot more choice - simple as that.
As an Admin on Newzbin (3 years ago) and United Forums (up to 4 weeks ago) I had free paid access to other major sites and I know the method that worked best and best for other team members.

I know how it all works and I know a little bit about how the scripts on some sites pull it all together but you rely on other posters doing the work and wasting their time.
It's threads like this that make me wonder why I did it for all those years being a major contributor to the NZB scene and I suppose Leechers (like yourself) do have that 'I'm OK I can get what I want and my way is best' attitude without realising where it came from in the first place.

<serious mode>
This thread has now made me make the decision to cease activities which took up a lot of my time so at least I can thank some of you for that.

I need to get out of this thread now.
I'm not having a go at you for your methods, and I would really like it if you stayed in the thread if only to help me understand your madness better. Your post reeks of pompous "I work in the industry I know what I'm talking about" attitude but you have done nothing to tell me why I'm wrong.

Just to make things clear; I don't use Newzbin anymore. I haven't for about a year. Maybe you're right. I don't have any opinions on this matter from an admin point of view, but I can only speak as the user. From a user point of view, we don't care where the nzb comes from and, until they are all being made by monkeys, it doesn't matter.

What you're trying to tell me is that your method of collating the raw articles and making your own nzb is better than pulling a perfectly fine nzb that maybe you yourself have uploaded or a computer machine script has done automatically. You're telling me that you were a major contributer to the scene and that you and your colleagues all use the same methods. Isn't it funny that you don't trust each others nzbs?
I have like a 1% failure rate which is nearly always when I'm trying to get something really old or really new which I guess where the quality of astraweb comes into play. Recently users have been experiencing a lot of CRC errors from Astraweb but the price:completion ratio means that I am happy to live with it.

Of course I rely on other people to make sure that each nzb site is working to give my rss reader a better chance of getting a hit. Maybe people are just using rubbish websites if this isn't good enough. I rely on admins to weed out the rubbish reports but they need to do that too because if their website was full of crap then nobody would use it. They don't only do it for us. They do it so that they keep their user base. Let me be clear (about something else) - This post isn't about the work the admins and the contributers do. This is about the easiest and best way to get my LINUXES.

You've made a tool and a resource that makes it so easy for everyone yet you still do it the long winded way. Is peace of mind really that valuable to you? Maybe it's because I have 50Mb broadband and I've just been really spoilt because I really am not wasting any time if I have to download something twice. Saying that, I can't remember having to redownload something because the nzb was wrong. The good thing about my set up is that it receives propers and fixes as necessary.

If someone made me a machine to make a full English breakfast automatically but there was a chance I would be missing a few baked beans then I'll use that even if I have to pay a little bit. The price is nothing to me. The convenience is priceless. You can sit there scraping all the juice from the baked beans tin, it doesn't bother me.

[OPINION] Using .nzb is the best way. It's automatic. My client reads the RSS feed and pulls ready made nzbs into a processing queue. It downloads automatically for me. It checks the .rar integrity automatically. Downloads the par2 files if needed and repairs automatically. It renames the files automatically so that my library is all in order. It will even generate artwork and put a description automatically. All within an hour of being released. Why do it any other way? [/OPINION]

I don't know if pressing the 'Submit Post' button is a good idea. This post makes me look like a bigger nerd than "Waa I'm a major contributer and people don't understand the work we do so I'm throwing my toys out of the pram and I'm leaving!!".

I don't know how the bloody hell can I write so much abut this...
 
Oh, I just didn't know what suck eggs means :(
Unless you were being sarcastic about being sarcastic. It's hard to tell and I'm too cynical.
 
Ok now my only reason for using/paying newzbin is they make a nice nzb name with all the details, rather then me have to waste my time finding the episode guide and whatever.

I've got quite a few things collected while they were down that are named horribly from when I was searching raw usenet :o
 
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