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Would It Be Possible For A Spec Within That Budget (Can Go £50 OverBudget If Its Worth The Extra )

Would Like To Base It On A Pentium/Nnvidia Set Up



(no monitor/keyboard/mouse needed)

Thanks In Advance
 
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if you would consider AMD and ATi, this is possible

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you can save £46 on the above, by using this board instead

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-393-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1782
 
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Product Name Qty Price Line Total
HIS iCooler V ATI Radeon HD 5850 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £232.99
(£198.29) £232.99
(£198.29)
AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1055T 2.80GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £166.99
(£142.12) £166.99
(£142.12)
Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H AMD 890GX (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard £104.99
(£89.35) £104.99
(£89.35)
Patriot G Series 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Dual Channel (PGS34G1333ELK) £88.99
(£75.74) £88.99
(£75.74)
Coolermaster CM-690 II Advanced Dominator Case - Black £80.99
(£68.93) £80.99
(£68.93)
OCZ ModXStream Pro 600w Silent SLI Certified Modular Power Supply £63.99
(£54.46) £63.99
(£54.46)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500418AS) £34.99
(£29.78) £34.99
(£29.78)
Zalman CNPS10X Flex CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/AM2/AM2+/AM3/775/1156/1366) £27.99
(£23.82) £27.99
(£23.82)
Samsung SH-S223C/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
(£12.76) £14.99
(£12.76)
Scythe Kaze Jyuni 1200RPM Slipstream 120mm Fan £7.04
(£5.99) £7.04
(£5.99)
Sub Total : £701.24
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £13.75
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £125.12
Total : £840.11

or

Product Name Qty Price Line Total
OcUK Value GeForce GTX 465 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £238.98
(£203.39) £238.98
(£203.39)
Intel Core i5 750 2.66GHz (Lynnfield) (Socket LGA1156) - Retail + Napoleon Total War £156.99
(£133.61) £156.99
(£133.61)
Gigabyte GA-P55-UD5 Intel P55 (Socket 1156) DDR3 Motherboard £114.99
(£97.86) £114.99
(£97.86)
Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9) £99.98
(£85.09) £99.98
(£85.09)
Coolermaster CM-690 II Advanced Dominator Case - Black £80.99
(£68.93) £80.99
(£68.93)
OCZ ModXStream Pro 600w Silent SLI Certified Modular Power Supply £63.99
(£54.46) £63.99
(£54.46)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500418AS) £34.99
(£29.78) £34.99
(£29.78)
Zalman CNPS10X-Performa CPU Cooler (Socket AM3 / AM2+ / AM2 / 939 / 754 / Intel 1366 / 1156 / 775) £26.99
(£22.97) £26.99
(£22.97)
Samsung SH-S223C/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
(£12.76) £14.99
(£12.76)
Sub Total : £708.85
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £12.50
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £126.24
Total : £847.59

Which is worse in pretty much every way.
 
id say all three of mine are better, he has a budget, so who cares for value for money, all three are bang on
 
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Looking to be playing the new moh and wow addon (cata) but also watching movies (would adding blue ray player mean cutting back on other components quality ? or have to increase budget a lot ? ( latter not possible yet)

thanks for replies and if any more they are really appreciated :)

(currently running a old amd 4000 with 2gig ram and sli gt7900 )
 
glum said:
Looking to be playing the new moh and wow addon (cata) but also watching movies (would adding blue ray player mean cutting back on other components quality ? or have to increase budget a lot ? ( latter not possible yet)

thanks for replies and if any more they are really appreciated :)

(currently running a old amd 4000 with 2gig ram and sli gt7900 )
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it would add about £66

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-131-SA&groupid=701&catid=10&subcat=314
 
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Worth the extra 50 smackers I hope.

You could probably spec a cheaper PSU but I rate the Corsairs highly and it's probably a good idea since I shoe-horned in the GTX 470. Also extra cooling, better and quiter than the Intel stock (which is ghastly) mainly becuase the MSI board has a one touch overclocking button (which works great!).
 
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you could save a £10 on JC's build, still going with corsair (quality) but this one http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-008-CS&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=


But for that price I still think your better of going for an AMD/ATI spec, Using the cheaper motherboard Stulid suggested, his build is bang on the money. You could also go for a cheaper case if you want to save money for getting a Blu-ray drive ( if if replacing the DVD drive, would add around £50)
 
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Thanks for the advice, i have run amd since my 1st rig and just fancied the change over to pentium aafter seeing good reviews for there i series, i know its all down to what u like personally but is there really tgat much to choose between amd/pentium these days, i am however a Nnvidia fan but see a lot of people now favour ati over them, again is there a proven + to go with ati. 4gig ram is that enough ,i dont plan to upgrade or buy another pc for min 3yrs
 
JCBeastie's build seem solid, but I'm not too sure about the MSI board. Gigabytes's P55 UD boards are known to be able to overclock the i5 750 to 4GHz and a bit more, but not too sure if the MSI board can also achieve that.

Consider it is a build that's gonna last for at least 3 years, I'd do a bit more research on picking motherboard, since it directly affect the overclockbility and speed of the system.
 
MSi boards are great, stable and reliable. People seem to overlook them for Gigabyte/Asus, and tbh I've had far less success with boards from them.
 
Here is an AMD based build the OP might want to consider:

AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition ~ £136

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-244-AM

Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H ~ £105

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-251-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1782

Does symmetrical Crossfire at PCI-E 2.0 8X/8X and has USB 3.0 and SATA 3.0 too.

OR

Asus M4A89GTD PRO ~ £106

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-392-AS

Does symmetrical Crossfire at PCI-E 2.0 8X/8X and has SATA 3.0 too. It is meant to be better for overclocking than the Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H.

4GB 1600MHZ DDR3 ~ £100

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-203-CS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1517

Antec TruePower New Modular 650W Power Supply ~ £85

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-117-AN

This is made by Seasonic and has 4 PCI-E power connectors.

HIS iCooler V ATI Radeon HD 5850 1024MB GDDR5 ~ £233

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-004-HS

OR

2XHD5770 1GB ~ £254

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-011-HS

Antec 300 ~ £41

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-101-AN

Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB SATA-II 32MB Cache ~ £50

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-244-WD

Samsung SH-B083L/RSBP 8x BluRay ROM / 16x DVD±RW Drive ~ £67

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-131-SA&groupid=701&catid=10&subcat=314

The total comes to around £817 to £839 excluding delivery.

A pair of HD5770 1GB cards can challenge an HD5870:

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1105/1/

The OP can get a Core i5 750 and a Gigabyte GA-P55-UD5 if they want an Intel processor:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-299-IN

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-203-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1495

The Gigabyte GA-P55-UD5 does symmetrical Crossfire or SLI at PCI-E 2.0 8X/8X but lacks USB 3.0 and SATA 3.0 and socket 1156 is EOL in Q1 2011 too.

If the OP goes with a single HD5850 1GB graphics card the build will cost them around £848 excluding delivery.

I assume that the OP has a copy of Windows already.

The HD5850 1GB either matches or beats the GTX465 in most games and consumes considerably less power too:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3745/nvidias-geforce-gtx-465

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_465

The HD5850 1GB cards also tend to be good for overclocking and are only slightly slower than an HD5870 1GB at the same clockspeed.
 
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If your going to build a gaming PC DON'T start from the base i.e the CPU and motherboard but start with the most powerfall video card you get for the money and build all the other parts around it as it's the video card that largely dictates the performacne of video games these days.

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Intel Core i3 dual core, 4Gb ram, 650 watt Corsair PSU, Samsung Spinpoint F3 and a Radeon HD5870 with a 3 year warranty and it's £25 under budget. Anyone want to try and top this?

Although the CPU is classified as 'only' a dual core it does have hyperthreading so comes with 4 logical cores and games so far don't really benefit from the extra cores and even the ones that do use more then 2 get better performance from increase in the clock speed and the I3 is very overclockable. Even a game like Battlefield: Bad Company 2 doesn't really benefit from quad cores, yes the game makes use of all 4 cores but all it does is spread across the cores and comes nowhere near to maxing them out, the game still runs just as fast on dual cores, the CPu works a bit harder but even then the CPU is far from being maxed out (and with an i3 you have 2 virtual cores plus turbo boost to help you out). The only case IMO for quad cores in a gaming PC is if you will be using your PC for lots of H.264 video encoding, but even then an i3 is no slouch.
 
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Freddie1980 said:
If your going to build a gaming PC DON'T start from the base i.e the CPU and motherboard but start with the most powerfall video card you get for the money and build all the other parts around it as it's the video card that largely dictates the performacne of video games these days.

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Intel Core i3 dual core, 4Gb ram, 650 watt Corsair PSU, Samsung Spinpoint F3 and a Radeon HD5870 with a 3 year warranty and it's £25 under budget. Anyone want to try and top this?

Although the CPU is classified as 'only' a dual core it does have hyperthreading so comes with 4 logical cores and games so far don't really benefit from the extra cores and even the ones that do use more then 2 get better performance from increase in the clock speed and the I3 is very overclockable. Even a game like Battlefield: Bad Company 2 doesn't really benefit from quad cores, yes the game makes use of all 4 cores but all it does is spread across the cores and comes nowhere near to maxing them out, the game still runs just as fast on dual cores, the CPu works a bit harder but even then the CPU is far from being maxed out (and with an i3 you have 2 virtual cores plus turbo boost to help you out). The only case IMO for quad cores in a gaming PC is if you will be using your PC for lots of H.264 video encoding, but even then an i3 is no slouch.
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Not entirely true, Core i5 750 outperforms Core i3 in every single task given and they both overclock by a good 50% (or at least 40% to be on the safe side). Core i5 750 combined with an OC'd Radeon 5850 would give you better results in both gaming and any other tasks. It's also cheaper build and would benefit greatly from a better board (with Crossfire option for instance).

CPUs comparison - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/109?vs=118
 
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Not entirely true, Core i5 750 outperforms Core i3 in every single task given and they both overclock by a good 50% (or at least 40% to be on the safe side). Core i5 750 combined with an OC'd Radeon 5850 would give you better results in both gaming and any other tasks. It's also cheaper build and would benefit greatly from a better board (with Crossfire option for instance).

CPUs comparison - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/109?vs=118
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Leaving everything at stock theres no way a i5/5850 is going to beat an i3/5870 no matter at what resoultion you play at. I do agree in part with what you say that a i5 will out perform an i3 but that's to be expected when comparing a £160 CPU to a £100 CPU and even then it's not in all tasks, in your own link it shows the i3 gave faster performance in games then the more expensive i5 750. However is that relevant? As I said the performance of games is largely dictated by the power of the video card in which case a HD5870 is quite a bit more powerful then a HD5850 (at stock speeds).

I would say a i5 750/HD5850 setup is on paper a bit more of an all-rounder and if he doing a lot of video encoding he would benefit from the CPU your touting however if he's using his PC for gaming 90% of the time he might as well get the something similar to what I knocked up. Horses for courses at the end of the day.

BTW, look at our handles take out 1980 from mine put Freddie in yours and look what you get. LOL
 
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Freddie1980 said:
Leaving everything at stock theres no way a i5/5850 is going to beat an i3/5870 no matter at what resoultion you play at. I do agree in part with what you say that a i5 will out perform an i3 but that's to be expected when comparing a £160 CPU to a £100 CPU and even then it's not in all tasks, in your own link it shows the i3 gave faster performance in games then the more expensive i5 750. However is that relevant? As I said the performance of games is largely dictated by the power of the video card in which case a HD5870 is quite a bit more powerful then a HD5850 (at stock speeds).

I would say a i5 750/HD5850 setup is on paper a bit more of an all-rounder and if he doing a lot of video encoding he would benefit from the CPU your touting however if he's using his PC for gaming 90% of the time he might as well get the something similar to what I knocked up. Horses for courses at the end of the day.

BTW, look at our handles take out 1980 from mine put Freddie in yours and look what you get. LOL
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It's pretty simple tbh, Radeon 5870 gives you about 15% more performance over the 5850 (at stock). Looking at the charts, you'll notice a higher increase with a better CPU than you'd get with a faster card. Then again, 5850 can overclock to 5870 levels with ease, 5% difference is all you get at most. Core i5+Radeon 5850 build is also cheaper, what should also be noted. And you definitely get a better all-rounder as you stated yourself.

Are you another person here, who cannot read charts? Look them up again and tell me ANY game that benefits from Core i3 more than from i5 750...

EDIT: so true, although I don't live in Chelmsford :p
 
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I'm starting to feel sorry for the OP, poor glum, he must be so confused (if he hasn't already bought a Dell or something out of despair).
 
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