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Will you be swaping the Desire for an iPhone4?
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Remember when Three and the 3G network was all about video calling? That particular marketing ploy sank without trace ..
The thing is nobody ever says why a desire is better other than the fact you can customise the os. Robboftw has a list aslong as his arm of things the desire can do that the apple cant but he can't be bothered sharing it. I appreciate that apple and google have approached the os from different angles but for the sake of rational discussion list your reasons for the desire being better rather than taking the typical fanboy approach (I'm talking about both apple and android fanboys) of resorting to just saying its obvious.
I think people are getting ahead of themselves saying the desire is "better" than the iphone 4, sure it's a lot better than the 3GS, but hardware wise alone the iPhone 4 is the better phone, but there are other android devices out there like the Galaxy S, Xperia and EVO which offer the same kind of clout, if not more.
I think the main reason is OS preference alone, I'm also in the camp of Android lovers, as I said above it's hard to get excited about a device that has basically the same interface it had 3 years ago and 3 years in the mobile industry is a long time. It's also easy for an Iphone owner to get excited about features they haven't had before like "Multitasking" which android owners have had from 1.0, OS wise they're just not bringing anything new to the table for android owners.
I also understand that they have come at it from a different angle to Google, and that's ok, Android is a lot more customizable and feels like more of a smartphone OS than the iPhone OS, which still feels very phoney, if that makes sense and though the iPhone may be fast and reliable it's hard to take a step back from the freedom Android offers to the interface apple offers to you.
Interface customization alone is one of the greatest features that Android offers, it may seem like a small thing to have and maybe it is to some, but to be able to make your device work and look the way you want it is great. Listen to that iPad announcement video from the apple website, even they use the sentiment in their sales patter: "I don't have to change to fit the device, the device fits me".
Hope that all makes sense.
I think the main reason is OS preference alone, I'm also in the camp of Android lovers, as I said above it's hard to get excited about a device that has basically the same interface it had 3 years ago and 3 years in the mobile industry is a long time. It's also easy for an Iphone owner to get excited about features they haven't had before like "Multitasking" which android owners have had from 1.0, OS wise they're just not bringing anything new to the table for android owners.
I also understand that they have come at it from a different angle to Google, and that's ok, Android is a lot more customizable and feels like more of a smartphone OS than the iPhone OS, which still feels very phoney, if that makes sense and though the iPhone may be fast and reliable it's hard to take a step back from the freedom Android offers to the interface apple offers to you.
Interface customization alone is one of the greatest features that Android offers, it may seem like a small thing to have and maybe it is to some, but to be able to make your device work and look the way you want it is great. Listen to that iPad announcement video from the apple website, even they use the sentiment in their sales patter: "I don't have to change to fit the device, the device fits me".
Hope that all makes sense.
Of the ipad, or Android?
I have said the reasons numerous times.
You obviously are a bit of an iPhone fan. At the end of the day, the iPhone is very tight with regards to customisation, I hugely dislike that, as do many other people.
The 4G hardware brings it ever so slightly ahead of the Evo and Desire, the software still blows (in my opinion, I know you love it)
The 4G hardware brings it ever so slightly ahead of the Evo and Desire, the software still blows (in my opinion, I know you love it)
Its not so much that I love it more that it does everything I require of it without crashing and offers all the functionality I require (more business orientated use). Personally I don't see the big need for a home screen, a pretty picture of the current weather is of no use to me but improved notifications would be. The 3gs camera is very poor but on the other hand the Desire camera is nothing to write home about. Each of the current generation phones have their good and bad points as do the OS's.
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As does my Galaxy
Now you're sounding more like a fanboy, sure you may think that these options aren't for you, but you really can't deny that having the choice of using these features is better than having no choice at all.
The thing that swung me to Android (Still on a HTC Hero!)
- Seemless aggregation of text/e-mail/facebook/contacts/etc, and lots of ways of viewing them.
- Nicer 'widgets', e.g. I can have my music controls on the same page as my RSS feed, etc, etc, etc, no need to keep hitting the home button then IPOD to change my music etc.. I've set my phone up with widgets that allow me to see/do several things without having to keep popping in/out of applications all the time..
I think the above sums it up, everytime I go back to the iPhone, I feel as someone put it, 'hemmed in'.. the UI is now very clunky IMO compared to others, and iOS4 doesn't look on the surface to be much different.. having 5 pages of little buttons just is so 200x..
HTC Sense/Rosie front end and Apple's iStore and some of their slicker in-built apps would make for the perfect phone.
Oh, and what is it with the 3.5" Screen on the iPhone4? it's actually instantly looking a little dated with the huge expanse of nothiningness top and bottom of the screen, a 4.3" screen would have been wonderous on it..
- Seemless aggregation of text/e-mail/facebook/contacts/etc, and lots of ways of viewing them.
- Nicer 'widgets', e.g. I can have my music controls on the same page as my RSS feed, etc, etc, etc, no need to keep hitting the home button then IPOD to change my music etc.. I've set my phone up with widgets that allow me to see/do several things without having to keep popping in/out of applications all the time..
I think the above sums it up, everytime I go back to the iPhone, I feel as someone put it, 'hemmed in'.. the UI is now very clunky IMO compared to others, and iOS4 doesn't look on the surface to be much different.. having 5 pages of little buttons just is so 200x..
HTC Sense/Rosie front end and Apple's iStore and some of their slicker in-built apps would make for the perfect phone.
Oh, and what is it with the 3.5" Screen on the iPhone4? it's actually instantly looking a little dated with the huge expanse of nothiningness top and bottom of the screen, a 4.3" screen would have been wonderous on it..
The actual iphone is a lovely phone, no denying it, however, I still have NO idea how apple/the carriers can really justify charging nearly £200 for the phone, on top of a contract with less minutes than the equivalent!
If it was the same price as it's competition I'd probably go for it, but no way am I being conned out of that much money for a phone that's no better than the competition. Oh well
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If it was the same price as it's competition I'd probably go for it, but no way am I being conned out of that much money for a phone that's no better than the competition. Oh well
.As does my Galaxy
Now you're sounding more like a fanboy, sure you may think that these options aren't for you, but you really can't deny that having the choice of using these features is better than having no choice at all.
Choice for choice sake........ if it was an major concern for me to have a weather widget then I would have taken account of that when deciding on a phone. I'm not a great player with my phone its a tool I use to help me through my working day and to me it was the best choice for my needs, just as your Galaxy was for you. There are no doubt valid reasons why the Galaxy was your your prefered phone and there are reasons why it wasn't even in the reckoning for me, primarily exchange support.
Everyone has different requirements.
Post it, I am intrigued.
Gawd, it was a huge list of comparables between the Desire/Nexus and the iPhone 4, feature for feature and taking into account cost of ownership, the former won ... no surprise there.
Not a chance, had my Desire 5 days (sold iPhone after about 6 months of using it) and I already find it much better to use than the iPhone.
Love the customisation and freedom to do as I please with it. Just need to get round to rooting it now and I'm sure I'll be even more happy with it then.
Love the customisation and freedom to do as I please with it. Just need to get round to rooting it now and I'm sure I'll be even more happy with it then.
I changed from a 3G to Hero and now to a Desire, for me it was getting shot of iTunes (god I hate that thing), customisation and just trying out other phones. Had a 2G before the 3G as well, they are nice phones but you can't really do anything with them so to speak. They're just good but boring like a posh Ford Mondeo.
The Hero was more of a side step, it wasn't quite fast enough or had a big enough screen to really shine, the Desire has fixed all this now. With the desire I don't even run the stock homescreen/desktop app, I'm running SlideScreen which simply shows feeds of calls, txts, emails, rss, calender & twitter. There's simply no way to make the iphone do this so for me that's now an instant no. Other than that I don't play games or use it for music, the only other things I really use it for is the occasional google search and using google maps and navigation which it does really well. Also running a 3G side by side with an identical sim card (O2 Simplicity) the Desire is almost always faster, it's like they deliberately made the 3G slow?
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The Hero was more of a side step, it wasn't quite fast enough or had a big enough screen to really shine, the Desire has fixed all this now. With the desire I don't even run the stock homescreen/desktop app, I'm running SlideScreen which simply shows feeds of calls, txts, emails, rss, calender & twitter. There's simply no way to make the iphone do this so for me that's now an instant no. Other than that I don't play games or use it for music, the only other things I really use it for is the occasional google search and using google maps and navigation which it does really well. Also running a 3G side by side with an identical sim card (O2 Simplicity) the Desire is almost always faster, it's like they deliberately made the 3G slow?
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With 2.1 the Galaxy does have exchange support
, but that's not really what we're discussing. I understand what you're saying and I understand that there is a lot of subjective personal choices here.But all I'm saying is that personal choice aside, and we'll just stay on the topic of customization it is better all round, for the consumer base not you as an individual to have that choice, so if someone wants those widgets they can have them with Android, but not with iPhone, if they don't want them with Android they don't have to and don't have a choice with iPhone.
I hope you see what I'm trying to say.