Mate's RS4 stolen......then recovered!

Captain_Slick · 9 Jun 2010 at 20:56

I dunno about anyone else, but I can't really reach anything through my letterbox...

Housey · 9 Jun 2010 at 21:00

They stuck a tracking device on my RS4, rest assured these boys are usually very serious about collecting quick motors.

Dangerous Dave · 9 Jun 2010 at 21:01

Lethal` said:
How would they drive it away without the keys?

In this case a laptop with vag commander and a blank key to code. You can get various devices to gain access to the car/ignition like keysets some cars can even have a canbus device attached from under the car to disable the alarm and unlock the car.

Chong Warrior · 9 Jun 2010 at 21:05

[TW]Fox;16719449 said:
Oh come off it they removed the entire front of his house!

No they removed a piece of glass... of which doth not a pro make.

Amateurs who started a high performance car in the driveway of a house that had just had it's double glazing removed. Then got caught by a tracker a full 15 minutes later.

If you think these guys are pro's.... then just LOL

[TW]Fox · 9 Jun 2010 at 21:09

Yes, thats right. All theives are morons otherwise they wouldn't be going around nicking cars. It's just the standards are so low that people going to that effort are indeed pros.

peterattheboro · 9 Jun 2010 at 21:14

Chong Warrior said:
No they removed a piece of glass... of which doth not a pro make.

Amateurs who started a high performance car in the driveway of a house that had just had it's double glazing removed. Then got caught by a tracker a full 15 minutes later.

If you think these guys are pro's.... then just LOL

Yeah it's not hard to remove a pane of glass. Just have to rip off the trims and it'll pop straight out.

Chong Warrior · 9 Jun 2010 at 21:16

[TW]Fox;16719781 said:
Yes, thats right. All theives are morons otherwise they wouldn't be going around nicking cars. It's just the standards are so low that people going to that effort are indeed pros.

Calling them pro's would surely seem to indicate they make a living from it?

These guys would starve to death trying to make a living from stealing cars

Youstolemyname · 9 Jun 2010 at 21:16

I think what hasn't helped is that he was away for a week with it parked facing the road with its shiney RS4 badge pointing down the drive.

The thieves could have had ample time to see it, figure out they were away on their holidays and prep the window but failed miserably in the respect that the Miltek exhausts on this thing were seriously loud and as said, there was a gap where one of the front windows were along with the front bedroom window being open.

Im just glad they found the keys downstairs as I am sure they wouldn't have been shy dishing out a kicking to get the keys if they were upstairs.

86JR · 9 Jun 2010 at 21:24

Begbie said:
Plus a lot of folk think its just a Audi A4.

I said to a mate, who is actually quite into his cars.

"nice car that. Yeah nice A4, they look nice in black".

I know i will probably get a lot of forum flak for this comment, but i saw an a4 on audi rs4 wheels just outside of liskeard about 2 weeks ago and thought "nice rs4, rubbish house". Yesturday there were roadworks just past so i was queud' next to it in traffic and noticed it was an s-line tdi. fail.

Begbie · 9 Jun 2010 at 21:37

[TW]Fox;16719781 said:
Yes, thats right. All theives are morons otherwise they wouldn't be going around nicking cars. It's just the standards are so low that people going to that effort are indeed pros.

Just a pity there will be a few who will make a lot more money than a lot of us ever will.

Fett · 9 Jun 2010 at 22:07

A trained guard/ppc dog is worth its weight in gold. Obviously not everyone can have a dog, but I can't really think of a better deterrent. Forget your "Oh aye, he'll 'ave yer if I want him too" tools and the leather harness brigade, a properly trained protection dog is about as good as you can legally have in the UK.

We sleep like the dead with him around and he's a great companion. It's not cheap to get them to an accredited standard but for the peace of mind he brings, very worth it.

TS7 · 9 Jun 2010 at 22:17

Suprised they didn't have an house alarm either. Definitely worth having. Especially in this case. I wouldn't have seen them hanging around long on a main road, with the house alarm going off and them standing there with a whole window detached from the house.

I think just the box outside the house acts as an active deterrent.

fonzee · 9 Jun 2010 at 22:45

Fett said:
It's not cheap to get them to an accredited standard

sod that, who really is even going to contemplate attempting entry with the sight of a gerry around...

Fett · 9 Jun 2010 at 23:59

fonzee said:
sod that, who really is even going to contemplate attempting entry with the sight of a gerry around...

He won't take treats. He won't pick anything up (food or otherwise) foreign within what he considers his perimeter, a bitch in heat or the scent is low on his list of priorities and it really doesn't matter how familiar you think you are with him, as far as he is concerned, unless we want you around, you're not welcome. He won't bark when he's outside which can be particulary nasty should you be having a nosey etc.

An imposing dog as a deterrent to a casual thief is wonderful and very effective, but a massive percentage of dogs fail spectaculary when somebody wants to really get in your house and is willing to put the effort in, combined with the fact that the majority of dogs are quite soft when pushed, no matter how "hard" the owner thinks it is.

Spuderoony · 10 Jun 2010 at 00:10

Is he called Buster? Or Bus?

rypt · 10 Jun 2010 at 00:12

Scum, should cut their hands and feet off!

Fett · 10 Jun 2010 at 00:21

Spuderoony said:
Is he called Buster? Or Bus?

Busa, (zulu for Rule) is part of his kennel name. He's not called that, he has another name.

[FnG]magnolia · 10 Jun 2010 at 00:25

Fett said:
He won't take treats. He won't pick anything up (food or otherwise) foreign within what he considers his perimeter, a bitch in heat or the scent is low on his list of priorities and it really doesn't matter how familiar you think you are with him, as far as he is concerned, unless we want you around, you're not welcome. He won't bark when he's outside which can be particulary nasty should you be having a nosey etc.

An imposing dog as a deterrent to a casual thief is wonderful and very effective, but a massive percentage of dogs fail spectaculary when somebody wants to really get in your house and is willing to put the effort in, combined with the fact that the majority of dogs are quite soft when pushed, no matter how "hard" the owner thinks it is.

This is interesting stuff. I can see why you'd go the lengths you have, given the cars you own in your sig but surely a determined or pro thief would disable or kill the dog, no? A serious crim has probably got access to guns. Or have I been watching too many films?

Spuderoony · 10 Jun 2010 at 00:34

Fett said:
Busa, (zulu for Rule) is part of his kennel name. He's not called that, he has another name.

Looking at him, I still think Bus would suit

Fett · 10 Jun 2010 at 00:47

[FnG]magnolia;16721271 said:
This is interesting stuff. I can see why you'd go the lengths you have, given the cars you own in your sig but surely a determined or pro thief would disable or kill the dog, no? A serious crim has probably got access to guns. Or have I been watching too many films?

Dogs are fallible, so if you bring a gun, you could shoot him. He's been trained to deal with a firearm situation and when guns are involved, the users are on edge, rarely have much experience with them and need to be good shot, the dog is accordingly trained on those basis. A gun scenario is worst case one but not a 100% clearcut either.

Without a gun (god help you if you are using a small calibre), things like tazers, poisons, benzodiazepams, pepper spray and knives taped to broom handles and poked through letter boxes are what some ***** will try. Most dogs that owners think are great guard dogs get stabbed, sprayed, doped etc...or actually become submissive in an instant...all because the dog is not trained, just being natural in it's den. It's barking, agitated and scared...poke a shiny tipped stick at his head and the dog will lunge for it, or it will charge the door and maintain minimum distance between you and the entrance, perfect for maming the dog in all sorts of horrible ways.

The pro thief can spot a real dog to be avoided in 3 easy steps...and if he doesnt know the signs and thinks the dog has gone quiet because he's relaxed a bit about having the stranger outside the house, holly hell of win starts when he actually comes in.

edit: he's not for protecting the cars, that's a positive offshoot of his training. His main function is a ppd, I used to be away from home in the evening and he looks after my better half.