Mate's RS4 stolen......then recovered!
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Has he ever attacked anyone (or defended you) by accident in that regard ?
My auntie used to have a german shepard called Zenda. It /hated/ people wearing hats and didnt like men it didnt know. It also clamped down quite hard on the arm of a man jumping over her back fences, unfortauntly he was a copper chasing a guy who the dog didnt see 
Its stories like this that make me not want to save up and get a nice car because **** will happen to it because of the scum of society. Though I don't want to drive a 1.1 saxo for the rest of my days
Its stories like this that make me not want to save up and get a nice car because **** will happen to it because of the scum of society. Though I don't want to drive a 1.1 saxo for the rest of my days
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Good story about the car being recovered. some of these scumbags are getting more and more brazen. Not that anyone would ever want to nick my crap car, but I keep my keys in my office or room. If they want to come and ask me for the key, they can 
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If the criminals are into banger racing they'd move away from Audis, they consistantly die after light contactr on the nose.
I'm not sure what I'd do with the keys for such a car, I keep my current keys very close to me person of an eve, but my car isn't exactly a target. I hate the state where you can do everything right to not have your car stolen, but you still have to leave your keys downstairs so nobody comes and stabs you for your RS4.
I'm not sure what I'd do with the keys for such a car, I keep my current keys very close to me person of an eve, but my car isn't exactly a target. I hate the state where you can do everything right to not have your car stolen, but you still have to leave your keys downstairs so nobody comes and stabs you for your RS4.
Its funny that about 2 yrs ago my brothers VW R32 was parked outside...this is when he was living at home with us...hes married now so lives in his own place.
Anyhow around 2-3am in the morning...everyone gone to sleep and some thief managed to jimmy our front door open...we didnt double lock it from the inside as we didnt think it would happen to us...how wrong we were...anyhow luckily our front room at the time was my brothers bedroom...as hes a light sleeper he saw through the door a dark shadow walk past...luckily the front room door had a big glass window in it...so he jumped up, opened the door and saw some guy legging it out the front door...all i heard was my brother shout OIIIII at the top of his voice. Woke up ran downstairs to see my brother getting ready and jumping in his car to give the scumbag the chase.
Called the police who came within minutes...my brother turned up and told them what happened...luckily the thief didnt get my brothers keys...he keeps them in his room but still was lucky and now we always always make sure the door is locked from the inside before we go to bed.
Saying that my area in redbridge essex east london is notorious for car crime...a lot of cars have been stolen around our area in the past 5 yrs so much so that the police have stepped up their presence in the area.
Now my brother makes sure his R32 is locked up in our garage.
Anyhow around 2-3am in the morning...everyone gone to sleep and some thief managed to jimmy our front door open...we didnt double lock it from the inside as we didnt think it would happen to us...how wrong we were...anyhow luckily our front room at the time was my brothers bedroom...as hes a light sleeper he saw through the door a dark shadow walk past...luckily the front room door had a big glass window in it...so he jumped up, opened the door and saw some guy legging it out the front door...all i heard was my brother shout OIIIII at the top of his voice. Woke up ran downstairs to see my brother getting ready and jumping in his car to give the scumbag the chase.
Called the police who came within minutes...my brother turned up and told them what happened...luckily the thief didnt get my brothers keys...he keeps them in his room but still was lucky and now we always always make sure the door is locked from the inside before we go to bed.
Saying that my area in redbridge essex east london is notorious for car crime...a lot of cars have been stolen around our area in the past 5 yrs so much so that the police have stepped up their presence in the area.
Now my brother makes sure his R32 is locked up in our garage.
Thats a whole lot of information I didn't know anything about.
How much does this training change the dog's natural (or original) demeanour? Doesn't really sound like its a pet afterwards, more a working dog.
OT - so have crims stopped stealing scoobs then? When I used to frequent Scoobynet, there were endless threads on peoples houses being broken into so thieves could steal the cars.
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Scary stuff what they are willing to do, kind of a saving grace in a way that i'll never be that rich
Love the dog, amazing animals
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The guy was very fortunate. Makes me think of reactivating the tracker in my car... although I doubt anyone would want it these days.
I would also like to know the answer to this, could he still be your buddy or is he just like a shopping centre security guard now?
I would also like to know the answer to this, could he still be your buddy or is he just like a shopping centre security guard now?
Your dogs like the Jason Bourne of the canine world, I wish my neighbour would get off his flabby arse and train his GS as well as yours is, perhaps I'd get a good nights sleep instead of listening to it bark at it's own shadow every couple of seconds.
I dont have an RS4 but if anyone dared to get in my house, they would have four Jack Russell's to deal with, OK not a german shepherd, but make no mistake, just as up for it and will do as much damage if not more, great guard dogs I reckon.
Years ago I remember going to a scrappy to get some bits, the owner had 9 of them, said better guard dogs than anything.
Years ago I remember going to a scrappy to get some bits, the owner had 9 of them, said better guard dogs than anything.
Really good UK dogs are hard to find, ask any handler or screw. European GSDs have stronger bloodlines and this is reflected in character, temperament, hip and threat level scores.
You don't really buy a puppy and then get them up to this level. Very few young dogs pass the threat tests, and by the correct assessment age, the dog is yours for life. Most ppds are purchased at 24-36 months.
Price? Clichéd, but priceless to me. If you are buying in the UK, expect £20K+ for top level dogs, £5k will get you an obedient "guard" dog. Price is dependent on breed, age, sire, training level and temperament and how far you want to go with the dog.
Temperament and character is all. It's all well and good having a GSD that can attack a fire ninja on crack, but it's useless if you can't have friends, family and children around the house, or step on his tail at 3am getting out of bed without loosing your foot etc. He's not a status symbol or for macho posturing, he loves to play on the beach and is really lovely with my mates little girls and doesn't bat an eyelid if a chubby little hand investigates his ear or pulls his tail, easily the most well-adjusted dog I've owned.
He's not a pet, he's a tool first and foremost, it's how it works. I love him to bits and I'm pretty much his whole world. He's a working dog and working dogs love to, well, work. His job is to protect me and my loved ones and he excels at it, I think he is a very satisfied GSD, takes every situation in his stride and that works well for both of us.
No. He doesn't attack by accident, certain parameters have to be met before he puts his business suit on.
Good story about the car being recovered. some of these scumbags are getting more and more brazen. Not that anyone would ever want to nick my crap car, but I keep my keys in my office or room. If they want to come and ask me for the key, they can
If I lived on my own, I'd probably be happy with that. But that's on the basis if they did come in and ask me for the keys, they can have them. A couple of desperate guys with pipes at 2am would make short work of anyone.
I appreciate all the things you've talked about Fett - but at the end of the day dogs aren't invincible no matter how much you've paid to have them trained. If somebody was seriously interested in stealing a car and was willing to take a house window out or threaten the owners with a weapon, I'm certain giving a guard dog a smack with a baseball bat would be the least of their worries.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling BS to any of what you've said - I just think that at the end of the day a dog only has his mouth to fight with and that's not a match for a more damaging weapon or even a bit of padding.
I own a Staffy for the record so I know full well how much damage dogs can do if they get hold of you - I'm just not so convinced that a single guard dog would be a match for a determined and well equipped human.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling BS to any of what you've said - I just think that at the end of the day a dog only has his mouth to fight with and that's not a match for a more damaging weapon or even a bit of padding.
I own a Staffy for the record so I know full well how much damage dogs can do if they get hold of you - I'm just not so convinced that a single guard dog would be a match for a determined and well equipped human.
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Its all about the level of deterrent vs the good worth to the criminal, why try and take Fett's car (for example), when you can find another without this level of protection.
But as he says i'm getting the feeling his job makes him open to other types of non theft related actions anyways, hence the dog.
But as he says i'm getting the feeling his job makes him open to other types of non theft related actions anyways, hence the dog.
Yeah I hear you - as I said I'm not calling BS to anything he's saying at all. Just making the point that people shouldn't think that an uber-shepherd won't ensure your car never gets nicked.
I agree, if somebody really wants your car, your house, your wife...they'll have them. The idea is to make it as difficult as possible. A determined gang of criminals, willing to go to any lengths, is nigh on impossible to stop.
That said, I've seen the baseball bat/golf club argument plenty of times on dofg threads. If you are familiar with how a ppd dog attacks, landing a clean, incapacitating blow is very much a hit and hope affair. Very, very few people would attempt it to start with, even fewer could manage it.
So you've hit the dog but he's still going. Now you have a problem. PPD attacks are not based on limb strikes and holds, although you would need silly tricep/bicep padding not to lose a good chunk of mass. They strike and work the body differently to, say, a police dog.
I'm under no illusions that he's not invincible, but I'm also aware his skill set was provided by people who realise that dog vs armed human is not always fair and account for it in training. He has the muscle, enamel, skills and the single minded determination to pose a worry to anyone with a baseball bat, of that I'm sure.
I get what you're saying though.
Yeah, I saw a pretty good demonstration video on youtube of a dog behaving / attacking differently when different weapons were used - very interesting stuff.