BMW 328

paradigm · 10 Jun 2010 at 14:57

Relentless81 said:
Thats a bit to much for me most of my driving is town driving and I do have to make some kind of sensible decision.

If "most of your driving is town driving", then surely your annual milage is low. So it matters not if you average 15MPG or 25MPG, if you do diddly squat milage then the costs are low regardless.

Somehow I don't see a BMW being the car for you if you are put off by such meager things as fuel cost.

iaind · 10 Jun 2010 at 14:57

330d?

[TW]Fox · 10 Jun 2010 at 14:58

iaind said:
330d?

LOL

paradigm · 10 Jun 2010 at 14:58

iaind said:
330d?

Isn't great round town. It's fine on a run and I happily maintain over 40MPG on A roads and 45+ on motorways, but round town you can still expect low-mid 20's.

Relentless81 · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:10

paradigm said:
If "most of your driving is town driving", then surely your annual milage is low. So it matters not if you average 15MPG or 25MPG, if you do diddly squat milage then the costs are low regardless.

Somehow I don't see a BMW being the car for you if you are put off by such meager things as fuel cost.

Yes it is but I also have other factors to consider IE I am looking for a new job within 20 miles. I was told the straight 6 was economical compared to the old Honda 2.2 but it looks like I was ill informed

The last comment I dont really understand, you're either assuming I cant afford to run a BMW because I dont want something that will do low teens around town or they are really unreliable and/or expensive to service

iaind said:
330d?

I would sooner walk plus the fact that I do a lot of town miles and diesels are not suited to that

mjt · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:15

Relentless81 said:
I would sooner walk plus the fact that I do a lot of town miles and diesels are not suited to that

What?
Lots of torque at low revs, they can roll along happily in gear without stalling, and they're much more economical on the urban cycle than petrols..

Duke · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:15

Relentless81 said:
Yes it is but I also have other factors to consider IE I am looking for a new job within 20 miles. I was told the straight 6 was economical compared to the old Honda 2.2 but it looks like I was ill informed

On longer journeys (i.e. A roads, dual carriage way and motorways) you should be getting high 30s.

You've got to look at the bigger picture of running costs and servicing though.

mjt said:
What?

Diesels don't like short journeys, which is why dealers have people going back with problems as they don't get warmed up enough.

iaind · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:15

I know diesels arent to everyone's tastes or needs, but surely for someone who is concerned with fuel economy they are worthwhile considering?

Fair enough if you dont like them, but why would they not be suited to town miles?

paradigm · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:16

Relentless81 said:
I would sooner walk

Why?

I'll be you that I could give you a passenger ride in my 330d which would change your mind.

Just ask Tim.

mjt · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:17

Duke said:
Diesels don't like short journeys, which is why dealers have people going back with problems as they don't get warmed up enough.

Around town doesn't necessarily mean short journeys.

However, I've just remembered the whole DPF nonsense so yes, you probably have a point from that angle.

Relentless81 · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:19

mjt said:
What?
Lots of torque at low revs, they can roll along without happily in gear without stalling, and they're much more economical on the urban cycle than petrols..

Please dont try to educate me on diesels, I hate the things, i'm using the word HATE here.

Duke said:
On longer journeys (i.e. A roads, dual carriage way and motorways) you should be getting high 30s.

You've got to look at the bigger picture of running costs and servicing though.

Yeah I appreciate that, I have owned a fair few cars but never a BMW but I thought they were a little more economical than they actually are

iaind said:
I know diesels arent to everyone's tastes or needs, but surely for someone who is concerned with fuel economy they are worthwhile considering?

Fair enough if you dont like them, but why would they not be suited to town miles?

I am not concerned with fuel economy its just a factor

EGR, that stupid DMF or DPF thing or whatever its called, I am ignorant to them and honestly not interested in the slightest

Relentless81 · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:20

paradigm said:
Why?

I'll be you that I could give you a passenger ride in my 330d which would change your mind.

Just ask Tim.

I've seen them go, they go like **** off a shiney shovel. Two of my mates have diesel BMW's, dont like them

mjt · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:21

Relentless81 said:
Please dont try to educate me on diesels, I hate the things, i'm using the word HATE here.

I'm not educating you, but saying that diesels aren't suited to town driving is nonsense.

Relentless81 · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:22

mjt said:
I'm not educating you, but saying that diesels aren't suited to town driving is nonsense.

Fair enough, thats one reason of many that I dont like them I also dont have any interest in talking about diesels further

paradigm · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:24

Relentless81 said:
Fair enough, thats one reason of many that I dont like them I also dont have any interest in talking about diesels further

I'd like to know your reasoning.

I had an irrational hatred of them too, based on older experiences and my parents preconceptions.

Then I bought one.

Relentless81 · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:28

Sound, rev limit, power delivery are the main factors, I just dont like the way they drive

NVP · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:30

As a 325 owner... I'd say go for the 330 or choose a different car.

The 325 is more than close enough to the 330 in both economy and performance... so you might as well get the 3ltr. Especially if you are after one for 5k as a dog is a dog regardless of engine.

To be honest, it will depend on how you drive your car to what figures you get. I avergae ~25, if you drive it softly you will easily reach above 30, drive it hard and you will drop below 20.

In regards to getting "everything as standard", remember these cars are old now so gadgets are minimal, you will probably get the same gadgets in many other cars. Also sport wheels are 18" as standard I think, not 17".

If you are worrying about MPG, don't. Just drive smoothly and you should be able to cope.

ubersonic · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:36

how the hell can you be confused by BMW model numbers? lol

its series + engine Litres

3 series 2.8L = 328
8 series 5.0L = 850
5 series 3.5L = 535

be glad Nvidia didn't design the numbering system for them ^^

mjt · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:37

ubersonic said:
how the hell can you be confused by BMW model numbers? lol

its series + engine Litres

3 series 2.8L = 328
8 series 5.0L = 850
5 series 3.5L = 535

be glad Nvidia didn't design the numbering system for them ^^

lol indeed...

Care to explain the 523i?
Or indeed the 116i, 118i, 335i, 335d, X5 4.0d, 550i..

Wicksta · 10 Jun 2010 at 15:38

ubersonic said:
how the hell can you be confused by BMW model numbers? lol

its series + engine Litres

3 series 2.8L = 328
8 series 5.0L = 850
5 series 3.5L = 535

be glad Nvidia didn't design the numbering system for them ^^

You're wrong, but I'll let someone else put the details in.

What litre is a 325i? What litre is a 116i? etc. etc.