H50 Nearly A year on, My View's Good Or Bad.

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Yes folk's, another H50 thread!!!!

It's been nearly a year since the H50 was released by Corsair, since l was about to build a new rig [AUG 2009] early kit's simular to the H50 wern't all that good. I decided to pre-order one, even with their being just a couple of basic review's about them. People did not realy now how they would stand in the realworld condition's , etc, getting a proper hammering by overclocking enthusiast's , would they leak, give good temp's, how easy are they to install, etc.

Corsair had done their own promotion test ,etc, and it showed promise!!

Well l ordered my component's from OCUK + the H50x2 Apache fan's my first thought's were when they arrived were -

1.It,s black, is that it > ** rad + 2 pipe's + pump ** can it be that simple a set up, as l know nothing at all about water cooling.
2.Will it be that simple to install?
3. It was mentioned it would not block your ram slot's.
4.How long would it last, leak, etc, even though it had been well tested and given 50.000HRs or 2 year warrenty.
5.But most of all how would it perform?
I know from the basic review the H50 PWM fan was noisey and not the best performer, so decided to order 2x Apache fan's for a push / pull config.

Plus we got a proper slating of the Hard-Core Custom Water Fraturnity ** thats not water cooling it will not work, it will leak, the rad's to small for cooling never mind OC'ing ** IMAO.

Well after nearly a year my view's are -

1.Yes > It is that simple
2.Yes > dead easy to install.
3.Yes > ram slot's are free.
4.Have only ever heard of a couple that have leaked and mine is still looking good also a few noisey pump's.
5.Stock fan is ok for stock set up's but to get the best out of the H50, you need to change the stock fan, l went for 2x Akasa Apache fan's as they offered good performance but most of all their silent at max RPM which is how they ran for the past 10 month's and still going strong.

So how did it perform in the real world with me overclocking my CPU and still wanting cool temp's -

Well in my view it perform's very well my temp's with the 2xApaches [email protected] are -

Room:Temp------Core:Temp's idle [ core temp's where recorded over a fewday's]
18.0'c-----------> 28'c:31'c:31'c:32'c > +/- 1'c
18.5'c-----------> 29'c:31'c:32'c:33'c > +/- 1'c
19.0'c-----------> 29'c:32'c:30'c:33'c > +/- 1'c
19.5'c-----------> 31'c:34'c:32'c:35'c > +/- 1'c
20.0'c-----------> 30'c:33'c:31'c:34'c > +/- 1'c
20.5'c-----------> 30'c:32'c:30'c:34'c > +/- 1'c
21.0'c-----------> 31'c:33'c:31'c:35'c > +/- 1'c
21.5'c-----------> 33'c:35'c:33'c:36'c > +/- 1'c
22.0'c-----------> 32'c:34'c:33'c:37'c > +/- 1'c

To cut it short at 4'00GHz, running P95 Samll FFT's for a few hour's core temp's at 73'c:76'c:74'c:78'c varies +/- 1'c.

Resently changed one of the fan's for a Akasa Viper fan and this has improved temp,s again allowing me to run at 4.2GHz -

P95 Small FFT's temp's after two hour's -
4.2GHz Room Temp 20'c > after 2hrs (P95 12.05 > 14.07) - H50x1 Viper fan Max:2002 RPM + 1x Apache fan: Max:1400 RPM > cores at: 72'c:74'c:74'c:76'c > cores vary +/- 1'c.

So my final thought's are *** its a winner ***, but Corsair should use a better performing Fan ie: the Akasa Viper as standad, that's what l would recommend. You may ask why this thread, well over the past few month's have been looking at doing a **** Custom Water Set Up ****. On seeing the Water Cooled FTO1 by Sir Hiss that clinched it and l have ordered my part's after reading review's and also using the forum's asking the in's and out's about custom H20 cooling.

My buget was only £250 but came too £296, but hoping to sell my H50 + 2xApaches in MM to recoup abit money.

You can follow my **** Custom Water Set Up Build Challenege for £250 **** in the Overclooking & Cooling section > under ** Project:Tight Wad ** using FTO1 case.

Link to the first part of my build log, explaining how and why l chose my component's [ will update as l go along + photo's] -

Project:Tight Wad link >

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18154111

PS: You Can Also Put Your View's Here If You Have Owned A H50 For At Least 6 Month's ** Good :) or Bad :( **.
 
Looks worse than my tuniq tower 120 the old version with stock fan at lowest setting I get better temps than those on prime it's IBT that gives me 75c +.

Could you do some runs using high voltage and IBT ? have a worry that this cooler will be hitting 80c + ?

Was interested in getting one but no point if it's worse than my tuniq tower
 
Hi you say you get better temp's with tuniq tower 120 > i7 at 4'0 or 4.2? but what was your room temp at the time? It's no use guessing saying it was cool or warm, l post my temp's with my room temp at that time!!!! using a thermometor.

Why should l run test's at high voltage?:confused:

I,ll run a few IBT run,s for you, set at 8 threads!!!!
 
I am just interested in how it performs under an extreme overclock is all plus I have the same case as you.
I find the tuniq cannot cope when I run IBT at 1.45v + all be it on a 65nm chip.

just interested to see if it can hold 75c ish even with IBt I want to run my q6600 at 3.6 ghz but I find my tuniq cannot cope and its 80c +
 
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Mine is great also, a year on and temps on a 4Ghz i7920 OC 1.25v are max 72c with a 24c ambient. Using 2x Apaches and exhausting out of the case rather than into as Corsair specify.

Good reliable bit of kit.
 
Yeah its an excellent cooler, although i wouldnt call the install easy, its a bit fidgety and the instructions are poor.
 
Plus we got a proper slating of the Hard-Core Custom Water Fraturnity ** thats not water cooling it will not work, it will leak, the rad's to small for cooling never mind OC'ing ** IMAO
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Idle temps seem ok, though largely irrelevant as you won't run a pc at idle, the load temps seem to be where it lacks over a custom loop.

My current build has a minimal loop ( I've also had loops with 3 radiators etc. so no stranger to watercooling ).

Single Feser 120mm rad / 120mm Phobya fan / DD small pump / Swiftech block / Tubing

Total cost : £25 / £4 / £18 / £45 / £4 , so ~ £100

Corsair H50 - £67

So yes i've spent more, but not excessive.

Current room temp : 22.5 degrees

Core Temp readings :

Idle;

36/35/38/39 ( Fan on 68% , or 7.3V )

IBT Load Test ( after 3 runs of standard, back to back );

61/61/62/63 ( Fan on 68% , or 7.3V )

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A minimal custom loop has handled the load temps far better compared to OP. Similar idle temps, virtually the same room temp, but i'm 12 degrees cooler across all cores, plus i have the Northbridge cooling in the same loop .

Overclocked Q9650 @1.36v - 4.05Ghz

Whilst the H50 is good, it doesn't compare, and lacks the flexibility over a custom loop.

Cheers.
 
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C64 > **my q6600 at 3.6 ghz > Looks worse than my tuniq tower 120 the old version with stock fan at lowest setting I get better temps than those on prime it's IBT that gives me 75c +**

No wonder your getting better TEMP'S YOUR CPU = 3.6dGHz!!!!

Compared to my i7 920 AT-------------------------4.2GHz

You can't compare these two CPU's they are completely different!!!! bang my head of wall. :mad:

Screenies at 4.2GHz > IBT standard + high < threads set at 8 > Note > ROOM TEMP IS AT 20.5'C

Standard -

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High -

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Hi mrdbristol, could you do 10 run's of standard + 10 runs of high and remember to the set the No? of threads you have in IBT.

YOU ARE NOT EVEN WARMING THE CHIP UP AT 3 RUN'S!!!

I agree you can't compare a custom loop to BOUGHT KIT as you can chose your component's.

IBT Load Test ( after 3 runs of standard, back to back ) -
61/61/62/63 ( Fan on 68% , or 7.3V )

PS > The above test IBT at 4.2GHz your at 4.0GHz s and have 8 > threads compared to > 4!!!! producing more heat.
 
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Yea you really want max and set threads to 8 for 100% usage. And yea, Q6600 @ 3.6 really cant be compared to an i7 @ 4.2Ghz. I get about 10C difference between my Eco Coolit and H50 vs my Noctua NH-D14 though with the latter winning easily and gap widening especially when higher vcore is used.
 
Hi mrdb - No need to shout.
oop's lol sorry m8. :)

Hi justintime, you got any temp's wrote down so we can see the different temp's between the 3 cooler's you have, would be nice to see. ;)
 
Hi mrdb - No need to shout.
oop's lol sorry m8. :)
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Lol, no worries mate :)

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Ambient room temp now 23.7 degrees.

This is with a toasty Northbridge chip in the same loop, same fans 68%.

Northbridge will be probably adding ~ 8 degrees ( could be more ) compared to a single cpu loop.

This still gives me an average of 7.5 degrees over your load temps without allowing for the northbridge heat input.

I would still say that this maintains a good 12+ degrees over the H50 cpu only loop.

Cheers.
 
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But a 4Ghz Q9650 is a much cooler cpu than a 4Ghz i7 920 especially with HT on.

Not gotten anything written down, but i tested when that heatwave happened and the D14 lay the smack down on my H50, Coolit eco and TRUE Rev. C with faster louder fans. The TRUE was actually better than the H50 and Coolit even with antec tricool fans in push/pull @ medium setting.
 
Justintime said:
But a 4Ghz Q9650 is a much cooler cpu than a 4Ghz i7 920 especially with HT on.

Not gotten anything written down, but i tested when that heatwave happened and the D14 lay the smack down on my H50, Coolit eco and TRUE Rev. C with faster louder fans. The TRUE was actually better than the H50 and Coolit even with antec tricool fans in push/pull @ medium setting.
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My rig runs 'pin drop' silent with ~ 66% fans, not going for any overclocking records here.

Drop yours to 7v and compare ?
 
Hi mrdb, cheer's for the screenee, as l say you can't compare a H50 to a custom H20 loop. l suppose in away the H50 introduced me too water cooling but thought it was a bit to much to handle!!!!

But over the past couple of month's started to look into it, but being retired we have got to watch the pennies, but if you took the time to read my thread > Project:Tight Wad. This will be my fist try at custom H20 cooling, to be honest yes l read up alittle, read a few review's and asked afew question's in the forum's then l finally chose my component's..

But don't really know how it will pan out at the end of the day, due to lack of knowledge, building experience, etc, like anything else nothing ventured nothing gained.

Hope you follow > Project:Tight Wad.:)

Really looking forward to it, remind's me of the time l built my first PC, and got great satisfaction when it booted up first time.:D
 
mrdbristol said:
My rig runs 'pin drop' silent with ~ 66% fans, not going for any overclocking records here.

Drop yours to 7v and compare ?
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Considering i've got wires run through the wall up to my room for USB/Audio/VGA and my pcs are downstairs on a KVM, i'd say it was more silent in my work area than yours ;) I've also got the resistor on the fans on the Noctua + the antec 900 tri cool fans are set to low, so its virtually silent too.
 
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Hope you follow > Project:Tight Wad.:)

Really looking forward to it, remind's me of the time l built my first PC, and got great satisfaction when it booted up first time.:D
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I'll have a read mate :)

Always good to try something new, and watercooling isn't rocket science ( I've managed it without killing................much !! )

Drop me a pm if you want/need any advice

Cheers.
 
Wow, mrdb just checked your case mod's, what can l say but a job well done, nice one's m8.

Cheer's m8, if l get stuck will give you a shout.;)
 
The h50 certainly is a good little bit of kit, wish it was about when i first dabbled in water, the only decent non over the top kits back then where the swiftech h20's, probably better then corsairs, as the pump is more powerfull.

Its allways nice to have options when it comes to cooling so im glad corsiar brought it out, ofcourse it can't compete with a well thought out, and sourced custom loop, but totally was'nt made to either.

Just to annoy mrdb, i can equal those temps with my fans at 21% :p
 
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Just to annoy mrdb, i can equal those temps with my fans at 21% :p
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Annoy me then :D

10 passes IBT @ Max.

Bear in mind i'm also cooling the NB and on a single fan.

I'll expect high 50's/low 60's to win.

Screeny please
 
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