H50 Nearly A year on, My View's Good Or Bad.
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Annoy me then
10 passes IBT @ Max.
Bear in mind i'm also cooling the NB and on a single fan.
I'll expect high 50's/low 60's to win.
Screeny please
There you go, im not happy with core 1's temp in either run, mostly likey need to reseat, with the glove method, instead of using the blocks pressure to spread it. But i'll do that when i get some Mx3 at some point, currently using Mx2.
If ur wondering why i did 2 runs, 1 without hyperthreading to match your Cpu, one with hyperthreading
Its not air btw, its a PA120.2 and 2 vipers at low speed, Ek supreme Lt and xspc bay res/pump combo, my cheap and cheerfull £100 kit lol. Probably could get better if my pump was better but ahwell £30 pump/res combo will do me for now.
Well we really cant compare the Q9's and I7's really, but yeh temps for me are no worries, i was gonna cool my mobo too, but my northbridge rarely goes over 40c, max iv seen it to date has been 45c. And for an X58 mobo, thats not hot at all.
But yeh my 8 thread run, shows the diff between the corisar and a cheap custom loop. Well if u get the seating right that is (damn core 1 lol).
Well we really cant compare the Q9's and I7's really, but yeh temps for me are no worries, i was gonna cool my mobo too, but my northbridge rarely goes over 40c, max iv seen it to date has been 45c. And for an X58 mobo, thats not hot at all.
But yeh my 8 thread run, shows the diff between the corisar and a cheap custom loop. Well if u get the seating right that is (damn core 1 lol).
I just got one of the new vipers recently and put it in last night for my H50 - really liking it so far, its basically the same as an apache but it goes to a much higher speed so at full load its much more audible but the cooling is much better. At low speeds its pretty much silent.
I just put a Q6600 G0 in and trying to get it to 3.6ghz. So far at 3.4ghz stable but 3.6 it requiring quite a lot of voltage and still not stable. Im convinced I have to edit other voltages to drop that vcore and achieve a stable clock but so far I have no idea what to do. Searching for it on google it appears people just do trial and error instead of understand what VTT is and how the voltages are meant to work together.
Anyway 3.4 is ok I guess, really wanted to go for more though maybe even to 3.8+. In terms of heat even at 3.6 with a high vcore (one that Im not really comfortable running 24/7) the temps are still decent with IBT.
I just put a Q6600 G0 in and trying to get it to 3.6ghz. So far at 3.4ghz stable but 3.6 it requiring quite a lot of voltage and still not stable. Im convinced I have to edit other voltages to drop that vcore and achieve a stable clock but so far I have no idea what to do. Searching for it on google it appears people just do trial and error instead of understand what VTT is and how the voltages are meant to work together.
Anyway 3.4 is ok I guess, really wanted to go for more though maybe even to 3.8+. In terms of heat even at 3.6 with a high vcore (one that Im not really comfortable running 24/7) the temps are still decent with IBT.
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If its some reassurance i've got a Q6600 G0 build i did for a mate running at 3.84Ghz 1.554v (without LLC enabled, drops to about 1.46v under load, i'm of the no load line calibration camp) for going on 2 yrs now with it being battered daily with video editing without a single issue, even recently went from the inital 4GB to 8GB DDR2 and ibt hits 76C tops in his P180 cooled by a Ultra 120 Extreme and 3 panaflo fans (one on sink, two exhaust back and top). Can't say i've ever heard of a dead Q6600, they are the land rover defenders of the cpu world 
Yet it's nearly a quarter of the price!
It's terrible!
Just terrible.
Really disappointed in Corsair.
I was hoping I'd be able to claim for a case full of expensive ruined hardware by now. At least three PCI-e SSDs, a 5970 and a shinier ROG mobo were going to be put on the claim form.
But NOOOOOOOOO
All the dam thing does is sit there looking smug keeping my cpu cool.
I want a refund. I'm going to run out of guarantee time before it fails at this rate
Just terrible.
Really disappointed in Corsair.
I was hoping I'd be able to claim for a case full of expensive ruined hardware by now. At least three PCI-e SSDs, a 5970 and a shinier ROG mobo were going to be put on the claim form.
But NOOOOOOOOO
All the dam thing does is sit there looking smug keeping my cpu cool.
I want a refund. I'm going to run out of guarantee time before it fails at this rate
If you'd read the thread you would see that i was comparing it to a loop i'd put together for ~ £100
£30 more.
The h50 costs £60 your loop costs £100. The custom loop is 67% more expensive but by your own conclusions ("i'm 12 degrees cooler across all cores") only produces 25% more performance. I like my h50 as it works well and I don't see how lower temperatures will make anything magically better.
P.S. I will defiantly look into custom water eventually when I have better graphics cards.
P.S. I will defiantly look into custom water eventually when I have better graphics cards.
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That 12C might make the difference when overclocked of a few hundred MHz easily. For example, a Q6600 @ 3.6 might hit 90C with your H50 and possibly throttle and is close to tjmax and might just hit it if ambient went up, whereas on his it wil hit 78C which is much more acceptable and 22C away from tjmax, so lots more headroom.
L1eot > I don't see how lower temperatures will make anything magically better. 
OK >
1.Why did you fit a H50, intead of using the stock fan.
2.Why go custom H20 cooled, when you get a better GPU.
3.You just keep hanging yourself.
Take note of what people are trying to tell you, l know just a little bit about PC's, when offered good advice take note l still do.
OK >
1.Why did you fit a H50, intead of using the stock fan.
2.Why go custom H20 cooled, when you get a better GPU.
3.You just keep hanging yourself.
Take note of what people are trying to tell you, l know just a little bit about PC's, when offered good advice take note l still do.
I only went custom water, not because i could'nt get the clocks i wanted on air, but well i like to tinker with stuff, and learn new processes.
It really is'nt that hard to put together a custom loop, don't get me wrong the first time you do it, your like crap have i done this right, basicly aslong as u have read up on it, and have the confidence to go by what u have learnt it is very easy to do.
The main key is getting the right stuff, poor component chose is what will let a loop down.
Its like how Oldpharts been going about it, he is'nt going custom water because he has too, his temps are fine as they are, but he wants a new challenge and to learn something new. And he is listening to those that have been there and done it, and by that i mean the really experienced guys that know there stuff.
It really is'nt that hard to put together a custom loop, don't get me wrong the first time you do it, your like crap have i done this right, basicly aslong as u have read up on it, and have the confidence to go by what u have learnt it is very easy to do.
The main key is getting the right stuff, poor component chose is what will let a loop down.
Its like how Oldpharts been going about it, he is'nt going custom water because he has too, his temps are fine as they are, but he wants a new challenge and to learn something new. And he is listening to those that have been there and done it, and by that i mean the really experienced guys that know there stuff.
I went for the h50 because I wanted to overclock and the Titan Fenrir wasn't in stock at that time. Obviously for the sake of reaching a desired clock speed lower temperatures are better, but once you've achieved the clock you want I dont see how moving from 70 under load to 60 is going to make anything but your mind feel better.
Custom water is definitely better than h50 - no doubt, but custom water is more troublesome and more expensive. When I get a better graphics card I might feel it to be more worth it, but honestly even then it would just be to look cool.
Custom water is definitely better than h50 - no doubt, but custom water is more troublesome and more expensive. When I get a better graphics card I might feel it to be more worth it, but honestly even then it would just be to look cool.
The point of water cooling is #1 lower temps and #2 silence.
In this day and age air cooling can almost be as quiet as water cooling if not exactly the same.
So if the temps are worse or no better then the h50 has no point to exist apart from more space around the case.
I am interested to try one myself trying to get one on the cheap from the mm just to see for myself if it's any better or quieter than a tuniq with fan @1000 rpm.
I think where it might be better is high voltage situations.
In this day and age air cooling can almost be as quiet as water cooling if not exactly the same.
So if the temps are worse or no better then the h50 has no point to exist apart from more space around the case.
I am interested to try one myself trying to get one on the cheap from the mm just to see for myself if it's any better or quieter than a tuniq with fan @1000 rpm.
I think where it might be better is high voltage situations.
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Lol, no worries mate
Ambient room temp now 23.7 degrees.
This is with a toasty Northbridge chip in the same loop, same fans 68%.
Northbridge will be probably adding ~ 8 degrees ( could be more ) compared to a single cpu loop.
This still gives me an average of 7.5 degrees over your load temps without allowing for the northbridge heat input.
I would still say that this maintains a good 12+ degrees over the H50 cpu only loop.
Cheers.
It would seem that my CoolIT eco slightly outperforms the custom loop.
Not really his custom loop is cooling the northbridge too, and is only a single rad aswell.
Ur eco is only cooling the cpu.
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Good review on the H50, its good to see they are working well for people. I think everyone buys a H50 and then eventually manages to dip their toe into the "custom watercooling" route.