Lightroom 3 Released

The_Abyss said:
The way I see it, the full price - £230 or so - is a lot less than most decent lenses and is just as useful and flexible.
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The problem that I see is that you don't replace your decent lenses every 2-3 years just because a new version is out. It also costs the lens manufacturer considerable amount of money to make each lens, whereas once the development costs of Lightroom/Photoshop are accounted for, each "sale" costs them very little.

A much more reasonable cost would be in the region of £100. This still makes the software company a lot of money, especially considering they would sell many more licenses rather than people just pirating the software as they do today. As has already been stated in this thread, I know of no one who has a full Photoshop license for them personally, its a product which can be afforded by companies only. Contrast this with the number of people who frequently 'shop pictures - it tells an interesting story in itself.

Personally I ended up buying Bibble. It doesn't offer the range of editing tools which Photoshop does, being more comparable to Lightroom. But it runs on multiple platforms and costs considerable less, but I note even this has gone up to $200 now :(
 
robertgilbert86 said:
Are there restrictions on commercial use of work produced? I.e. if someone pays for your images.
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Like greedy123 said, I'd imagine so, but on the Adobe website it says:

Adobe said:
Restrictions on use
You may purchase only one license of any Adobe Student and Teacher Edition product within a 12 month period. This license may be used only on your privately owned computer. Student and Teacher Edition products may not be resold.
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No mention of "no commercial use", unless to see it you need to delve deep within the pages of small print license that it no doubt comes with.

Can't grumble at ~£65; I think I'll be giving it a go.
 
I think you're ok for personal and commercial use:

Can a student or teacher use the Adobe Student and Teacher Edition software for commercial use?

Yes. Those who purchase this product can use it for personal as well as commercial use.

http://www.adobe.com/uk/education/students/studentteacheredition/faq.html

..and also sorted for when you're no longer a student:

May a student or teacher continue to use Adobe Student and Teacher Edition software after graduation or upon completion of training?

Yes. After graduation or upon completion of training, the person may continue to use the Adobe Student and Teacher Edition software.

Result for the students! :)
 
Bluelion said:
The problem that I see is that you don't replace your decent lenses every 2-3 years just because a new version is out. It also costs the lens manufacturer considerable amount of money to make each lens, whereas once the development costs of Lightroom/Photoshop are accounted for, each "sale" costs them very little.

A much more reasonable cost would be in the region of £100. This still makes the software company a lot of money, especially considering they would sell many more licenses rather than people just pirating the software as they do today. As has already been stated in this thread, I know of no one who has a full Photoshop license for them personally, its a product which can be afforded by companies only. Contrast this with the number of people who frequently 'shop pictures - it tells an interesting story in itself.

Personally I ended up buying Bibble. It doesn't offer the range of editing tools which Photoshop does, being more comparable to Lightroom. But it runs on multiple platforms and costs considerable less, but I note even this has gone up to $200 now :(
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I don't necessarily disagree but you're saying that nobody changes their lenses every 2-3 years. Nobody buys a new copy of Lightroom every 2-3 years either - the upgrade costs are far far lower and in fact are closer aligned to the cost of cleaning and servicing your camera.

I don't disagree on the Photoshop cost though. It is prohibitive for individuals and I'd imagine very few people here have a version they've bought themselves. It will have been company-funded or pirated - in most cases the latter because it is simply so easy.
 
dannyjo22 said:
A question about these student packages, can I get one using my nephew as a mule or are the restrictions tighter than that?
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You have to provide proof when purchasing, so your nephew could buy it. As you're not a student though you don't comply with the license requirements.
 
I'm officially a student until the 18th of this month, and so can get either Photoshop or Lightroom at the student price - will Lightroom be enough for typical photographic use as I suspect that Photoshop will contain loads of features that I'm never likely to use ?
 
It's good that you can use the student scheme commercially, makes me wish I'd bought it a few years ago for cheap! I remember a friend saying years ago he bought a student version of PS but the license didn't cover commercial use (hence asking above).

Wozz, I'd say LR is your best bet. It's a million times simpler than PS but still very powerful. You can jump straight into it and make many different versions/styles of photos in seconds.
 
Very tempted to upgrade my LR1 licence to LR3.

Have been using the beta with great success so for £80 it seems like a reasonable step. I wouldn't fork out £232 for a full version though!
 
Rojin said:
You have to provide proof when purchasing, so your nephew could buy it. As you're not a student though you don't comply with the license requirements.
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Ah ok, even if he comes to my house to study and learn ;)

Student price I'd buy it, £70-£80 is my threshold to buy a piece of software especially when my operating system costs me that.
 
They keep sending me an email to claim my 15% off as a beta user, which is nice... If had some job security I'd go for it!
 
Panzerbjorn said:
Very tempted to upgrade my LR1 licence to LR3.

Have been using the beta with great success so for £80 it seems like a reasonable step. I wouldn't fork out £232 for a full version though!
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I'd snapped their hands off for £80 for this !

The publish to FlickR plugin is worth 10% of that alone for me.
 
I've been trying out the trial version and really liked it, never having used Lightroom before, and have just received my Student version through the post - just in time as my student id runs out on Friday !
 
How does this compare to the likes of Canon DPP?

I'll download the trial when I get home tonight, hopefully I wont have any issue with the RAW files from my 550D as I had issues when I tried a friend's PC with CS5.
 
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