Any mac diehards starting to become a bit concerned with the prices?

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Is it just me? Lately it's just been occurring to me that the prices are steadily rising as each new update comes. Usually they go up a bit, down a bit, up a bit, down a bit, but the last few have just been up.

Two, two and a half years ago when I was working at Apple, a base model iMac was £799. A Macbook could be got for £699. A Mac Mini was, when I bought mine, I think £429? Maybe £489 or something.

I know part of it is the exchange rate, and while that's a bull**** excuse it's not exclusive to any american company, they all do it.

I'm just starting to think that a) they just don't care if they price the lower end of the market out, because they're not concerned with them, or b) they know the growing hype and respect they're getting in the mainstream means that people just want the kit enough to cough up for it?

Yeah, the kit's getting better, but everyone's kit is getting better and no one else is just steadily adding cost to all their products.

£150 on the Macbook, £170 on the iMac, and now £140 on the Mac Mini?

I just feel like maybe they're starting to take the mick a bit with machine prices. No complaints about iPod and iPhone pricing, it's either the same or a little bit more, little bit less. The machine prices are starting to bother me though.

I think the iPads are too expensive too, but I can see why. a) new, b) that screen's in nothing else.

Thoughts? Can we really pin this all on the exchange rate? Is it going to drop if things get better? Have they got any right to hike our prices for the exchange rate? Should we swallow the cost or should they?

Or is it just that they know they can charge more? Or is it both?

On the other hand (I ramble now), I think there's a couple of things that are much better value. The 27s for example are genuinely great value. I suppose my problem is more with 'entry level' machines, or the cost to get a 15" screen MBP. It's always been quite a hike but now you're looking at an extra £500 to get the bigger screen. Takes the mickey.
 
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exchange rate is dire

when was the last time you got $1.40 to the pound

when we went on holiday last year it was $1.60 and the year before that we were getting nearly $2.00 !!!

thats over 25 % decrease in exchange rate.
 
Yeah I agree. The new mac mini pricing is ridiculous. I'd like to take advantage of the higher education pricing before I finish next year to replace my very long in the tooth powerbook... Really don't think I'll be able to afford it at this rate. *gets out worlds smallest violin etc etc*

Has anyone been keeping an eye on US pricing? Is it exchamge rate, and their prices have pretty much stayed the same, or have they been steadily rising too?
 
exchange rate is dire

when was the last time you got $1.40 to the pound

when we went on holiday last year it was $1.60 and the year before that we were getting nearly $2.00 !!!

thats over 25 % decrease in exchange rate.

I know, but are other companies all doing this? I can't say I've noticed it, whereas with Apple stuff, we're really feeling it bad. It's just like they've simply passed on the exchange rate thing to us.

Mac Mini as an example though I think is a mistake on their part. Mac Mini + Wireless Keyboard + Magic Mouse = £761. Add on say £200 for a nice quality third party monitor and you're at iMac pricing, for a considerably lower spec machine.

I thought for a long time before I got my Mini as a media centre and that was with my 27% Apple discount - if I had to pay £649 for it? No chance. I just couldn't justify it and I know very few people who could/would.
 
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exchange rate is dire

when was the last time you got $1.40 to the pound

when we went on holiday last year it was $1.60 and the year before that we were getting nearly $2.00 !!!

thats over 25 % decrease in exchange rate.

This definitely doesn't help our cause in the UK.
 
I'm not really a Mac nut, but I do love OSX and did want to switch to a Mac mini a couple of years ago as I stopped gaming on PC.

Back then, they were £399 for the bottom core2 duo model. Then they went up to £500 when they upped the clock speed and got Nvidia gfx, and now, they're an incredible £649; which is completely ridiculous. That's iMac money.

Anyone paying that for a Mac mini either needs a mental health check, or they have more money than they know how to spend.
 
The last excuse I was given was the specs have increased, which whilst true, isn't exactly how it works. Or we'de all be paying a million pounds for a computer. No excuse for the new base spec MacBook Pro to be more than the old one just because it's got a slightly faster CPU and a little more hardrive space. I'm not sure the exchange rate has changed all that much since the last generation either.

They'll keep putting them up untill sales level off or start to fall. If people are willing to pay it they'll keep charging it.
 
Any body got a full price history for Mac products for the last 5-10 years? Then at least we can look at it subjectively and adjust for inflation. :)
 
I'm worried.

Entry level laptops costing £700 is a complete joke. Yes, they're great machines but have you ever tried to convince a switcher to part with an extra £300 "just because"? That's a hard sell!

It's the same for the mini. It was always marketed as a BYOMKM machine but realistically it's still a big chunk of cash for what you get.. Upping the price on a core 2 duo machine is a kick in the balls considering they refuse to add Blu-Ray.

Now, Let me give some perpective here. I own a big chunk of Apple stock and have bought nearly every machine at some point in the last 10 years, so this worries me as Apple operates on a 30% margin and they're jacking prices because of "exchange rate"- I don't buy it.

A conference call some years ago (2009?) they announced they'd eat some of that margin with increased production costs, due to the unibody process, but now they seem to have done a u-turn and it's worrying that the overpriced price tag image is resurfacing.

Fanboys will have a point if this carries on.
 
The top spec 27" iMac is LESS than what i paid for my 24" one before the update.

It does look like they have bought the base prices up though.
 
What you get for your money this year and next year for bicycles has decresead substantially imo. So I don't think it's just Apple. But I agree the pricing is creeping up again.

Maybe I was spoiled by the 15% VAT :)
 
Entry level laptops costing £700 is a complete joke. Yes, they're great machines but have you ever tried to convince a switcher to part with an extra £300 "just because"? That's a hard sell!

£699 was easy, £749 was easy. £849 is still sellable but it's definitely harder now. It used to be an extra £250, 300 to get a macbook over an average laptop. Now it's more like an extra £450 or £500.

Obviously by the time a switcher gets to me the battle's half won because they're in the shop, but still. I can absolutely see why people balk at £849 for a laptop with no SD slot, no Firewire and so on. 2gb RAM as well.

I do think Macs are worth the extra money, it's just that especially at the entry level they're pricing people out, definitely within the last six months it's getting much worse.

I just can't see it all being down the exchange, and as you say Apple's margins are pretty high. They can swallow it, why should the consumer?

Interesting to hear what other areas this is affecting badly (cars, bicycles). I was wondering how many other things are being affected.
 
Price comparison, using today's exchange rate and excluding tax:

iPod touch 64GB:
UK: $373.66
US: $399.00
Difference: -6.35%

8-core Mac Pro (basic model):
UK: $3117.47
US: $3299.00
Difference: -5.5%

iMac 27" (basic model):
UK: $1682.67
US: $1699.00
Difference: -0.96%

MacBook Pro 15" (basic model):
UK: $1830.43
US: $1799.00
Difference: 1.75%

iPad 64GB with 3G:
UK: $853.55
US: $829.00
Difference: 2.96%

Mac Mini (basic model):
UK: $792.49
US: $699.00
Difference: 13.38%

Apple TV:
UK: $272.31
US: $229.00
Difference:18.91%

Moral of the story: Apple + HDMI + UK = expensive. Everything else is decent value though. :)
 
People pay the prices so they have no reason to lower them tbh. I cant understand how a MBP is worth an extra £300 over a normal Windows laptop, other than the nicer finish which I really dont care about.
 
Personally, my response to this is...

How often do you need a new machine?

Back when I used to use PCs at home, you always had to keep upgrading them, because they always started to struggle, especially with games.

My first Mac was a Powerbook G4, it's about five and a half years old now and I still use it as a laptop just fine. Then I bought a Mac Pro a couple of years ago, and I don't see myself needing to upgrade from that for quite some time.

So yeah, they might be high prices initially, but then I feel I've gotten a lot of use out of them. I don't really see the need to be upgrading on them all the time, unless you are the type of person who has to have the new Mac Book Pro/Mac Book/Mini whatever....
 
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