The USA is still a 3rd world country

RDM said:
The method is pretty secondary to the act of execution itself to be honest. By firing squad, electric chair or lethal injection the end result is the same and the cost overall probably varies very little when added in to the total costs of executing someone.
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You wouldn't be saying that if you were the guy being destroyed! I wouldn't want to know anything. Why they can't just put people to sleep anaesthetic-style and then give them the cocktail of injections, I don't know.
 
Redrum said:
Which incidently deuse, edscdk et al, is way way higher than just giving someone a life sentence.
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thats because they keep appealing all the time as well as keeping them in prison and not actuatlly executing them...

so the cost is actuatlyl trial + psison + appeal + prison + appeal prison and so on for ever...

when it should be

trial + appeal + execution (assuming what ever criteria has been set for execution is met)
 
I disagree with corporal punishment entirely but I can see why people might argue for it.

That said this hardly makes me rage against America.
 
Robbie G said:
. Why they can't just put people to sleep anaesthetic-style and then give them the cocktail of injections, I don't know.
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I often wondered that, the electric chair seems very bizare way to kill someone...

send them to sleep then zap them with lethal drugs.. at 100x the dose required to kill then there are no mistakes...
 
He chose to be killed by firing squad. The law in Utah, I think it's Utah, up until recently gave prisoners the option of being killed by firing squad. However, the law changed a few years ago removing the option, but any prisoner on death row who chose firing squad before the law was passed was still allowed to receive that penalty.

After this, there won't be anymore firing squads.
 
Robbie G said:
You wouldn't be saying that if you were the guy being destroyed! I wouldn't want to know anything. Why they can't just put people to sleep anaesthetic-style and then give them the cocktail of injections, I don't know.
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This is exactly what the lethal injection does...

As for the OP:

They gave a dead man walking a choice on how to die... that's the complete opposite of barbaric.
 
Robbie G said:
Ah, didn't realise it rendered you unconscious before the actual paralysation of the muscles began.
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I jsut read the wiki article on it, seems like a fairly well thought out procedure not like jsut shooting someone and hopeing they dont live too long after...
 
Without meaning to be pedantic... but, has nobody actually noticed the fact he's calling the United States a third world country a litttttle bit ironic? Considering how the terms Third World / Second World / First World originated...
 
In no way does this make the U.S a third world country, as many people have stated it was the choice of the prisoner and even though the injection is painless, and far more humane he chose to be shot. I suppose they don't shoot in the head so that he can have an open coffin.
 
edscdk said:
thats because they keep appealing all the time as well as keeping them in prison and not actuatlly executing them...

so the cost is actuatlyl trial + psison + appeal + prison + appeal prison and so on for ever...

when it should be

trial + appeal + execution (assuming what ever criteria has been set for execution is met)
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Yet with all those appeals and extra costly trails, and huge delays, they still make mistakes and execute innocent people. I think that is totally unacceptable and if they relax the standards for the sake of saving money, that means even more innocent people will be murdered by the state. Is that really such a good idea?

To the people referring to this as corporal punishment, just fyi, corporal punishment just means inflicting pain, like a teacher hitting a student with a ruler. This is capital punishment, which means to kill someone for committing a crime.
 
I find it quite shocking frankly. As the BBC website said, it's an anachronistic, wild west esque style of justice and it tarnishes any holier-than-thou image the US may wish to project internationally.
 
Robbie G said:
You wouldn't be saying that if you were the guy being destroyed! I wouldn't want to know anything. Why they can't just put people to sleep anaesthetic-style and then give them the cocktail of injections, I don't know.
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I remember watching a program about execution. Can't remember who presented it but the presenter experimented and researched on the best ways of execution and he came to the conclusion that nitrogen was the best way to die. Painless and you pas away in joy.

He then asked people what they though and they said the whole reason they don't do painless executions is because "why do they deserve a painless death?".

P.S. I've heard the lethal injection is far from painless also. People writhing in pain? No thanks.
 
You've gotta remember America is a religious country.
Now no offence to religious people but a lot of them have their head in the clouds, less focused on reality. Thats maybe not a bad thing in a lot of cases, probably a perfectly happy existance, trouble with it is they don't always consider the implications of actions and can end up making bad decisions as they haven't looked at the real big picture and thought about how their actions are actually going to effect others.

Thats my theory on it, certain bits of America are a bit backwards, all the money and stupidity you could grab.
 
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