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Pass a law to seize all the gold bullion held in London's vaults, estimated around £200 Billion.
How would YOU decrease the national debt?
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Seriously, no insult intended, would you describe yourself as a fascist?
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The attacks are being organised on the whole from within Afghanistan.
I'd say if England lose this war, THAT would inspire mental-muslim lad...
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For me the main thing would be to cut down on benefit spending by making it actually worthwhile to people to get off it.
For example a friend of mine is seeing a girl who has two kids (of school going age) from a now broken marriage. to make the same amount of money she currently gets from child maintanence, housing benefit, job seekers etc etc she would need to find a job paying something like £13K, which with no qualifications etc she won't get, hence leaving her with less money...and of course less time cos she'lll have to work.
As much as I hate it, I can see why she wouldn't bother trying.
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For example a friend of mine is seeing a girl who has two kids (of school going age) from a now broken marriage. to make the same amount of money she currently gets from child maintanence, housing benefit, job seekers etc etc she would need to find a job paying something like £13K, which with no qualifications etc she won't get, hence leaving her with less money...and of course less time cos she'lll have to work.
As much as I hate it, I can see why she wouldn't bother trying.
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If you pay the PM only 30K you're going to end up with someone awful. If you pay an MP only 25K a year you're going to end up with either awful people, or only very rich people for which the wages are immaterial ..
The US argued EXACTLY what you argue for 2 years as Hitler wandered through the EU. If you don't stop nutter dictators early, they get more and more powerful and it becomes much harder to stop them later (Modern day example, stopping Iran getting nukes now rather then being pacifist than suddenly Iran saying 'We have 9 nukes and will launch them unless Israel ceases to exist and the US and UK become Muslim states'
International aid isn't just a gift - it is swapped for the country in question doing things we like .. awarding contracts .. helping British interests etc ..
'Mentally reduce all public services' - What? I never spoke of reduction only privatization.
'Take away their essential money' - Essential in what sense? I never said cut other benefits. They would still have housing benefit and limited tax credits. Anyway what do people spend JSA on? Food, cloths, fags, newspaper, bills. I dunno, give them vouchers or power cards. Limit their JSA!!
'Hate all foreigners' - You are an idiot. I have no idea where you get that from.
Ive had enough. Im off to lynch a socialist. x
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Heil mein Führer!
Are they not exactly the type of people who enter politics at the top level anyway?
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It would be but we should do it anyway because the country is destined for a civil war and if we stay 10 years it'll just delay it at the cost of money and lives. Nobody has ever had much success in pacifying the country, the nearest anybody came was the russians and they were a hell of a lot nastier than we're prepared to be.
The terrorism argument is pointless too, *IF* we succeeded in stabilising the country and shutting down AQ there, they'd just spring up in Pakistan's tribal areas, or Somalia, or Indonesia.
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Are they not exactly the type of people who enter politics at the top level anyway?
What 'awful' or 'So rich the wages don't matter'?
I disagree, things have moved on since Russia invaded and Iraq has n9t fallen into civil war. They just need time to train and build there army/intelligence and police up. As well as economics and infrastructure. Until then, they need help securing the country.
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So we win there and they organise them from somewhere else? That's not really progress is it?
Yes, it's going to be a PR victory for them when we withdraw, but we're going to withdraw sometime, there is no way we're going to win this war. So lets get it over with and maybe not spend hundreds of millions putting it off? Or maybe you'd prefer the argument of not seeing another 100 troops die in the next couple of years for absolutely no good reason?
No point being there.
I don't think the large majority of us would have a clue how we could handle that debt situation or what it entails.
That being said i'd end free benefits for the unemployed and change it to a work for your money situation with them doing menial jobs like street cleaning etc in return for their dole cheque. If they don't want to do this no money for them, simples.
That being said i'd end free benefits for the unemployed and change it to a work for your money situation with them doing menial jobs like street cleaning etc in return for their dole cheque. If they don't want to do this no money for them, simples.
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Iraq hasn't fallen into civil war because it has a very strong central government (which is incredibly corrupt but hey) that can prop itself up with Oil revenue. Afghanistan has neither of those things and has historically always been a tribal country prone to conflict. I don't think they're anything like the same and in any event I don't think Iraq can stay in it's current state as the US isn't going to prop it up forever with aid and military assistance.
That would be the fastest way to create a downward spiral and massive fracture between the classes of this country.
scrap free education and subsidised higher education, your parents cant afford it so the children will suffer and in turn there children and you will all be damnd to the viscous circle that is poverty.... thats right there is no way out for you, just commit suicide!
sounds like you were a tory voter through and through lol!
Afghanistan is just borders drawn around warring factions and tribes. It will not really work. It's not the same as Iraq.
no it's not the same as iraq, but many people said iraq would not work. You give it enough time and it will work. eventually the government, forces and economy will gain enough strength.
If you pull out know there is only one outcome and one we made by invading. that is not acceptable.
