Public sector pay freeze

Yea they had been coming for a while so they had actually frozen recruiting a few weeks ago in anticipation for todays announcement. They needed to clarify what budget would be available for the upcoming year before committing to hiring a whole bunch of people.
 
it wont effect your incremental increases as these are contractual on an annual basis until you reach the top rate, they wont cancel these as they will be taken to tribunals in an instant
 
anant_shah94 said:
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It's probably the rumours of freezes that was making a job difficult to come by
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I don't know, recruitment agencies are all to happy to fill a quarter of my inbox listing with subject lines about the thousands of jobs that have been added the previous week!
 
Khaaan! said:
I don't know, recruitment agencies are all to happy to fill a quarter of my inbox listing with subject lines about the thousands of jobs that have been added the previous week!
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Haha yea but are they for nursing!!! I also get a lot of junk as well but never anything that is of any interest...
 
With the hidden 25% budget cuts across government departments (except Health and Foreign Aid), if I were a public sector worker I'd be more concerned about staying employed than a pay freeze :(
 
Apparently the government have honoured the 2010/2011 teacher pay rises, with a 2-year freeze after that. And teachers will obviously still move up the scale as normal.
 
About time Public Sector workers felt the pain that everyone else in the private sector has been going through for some time. The majority of private companies have gone through restructuing/redundancies/pay freezes etc. Why should the public sector escape?
 
Windle said:
About time Public Sector workers felt the pain that everyone else in the private sector has been going through for some time. The majority of private companies have gone through restructuing/redundancies/pay freezes etc. Why should the public sector escape?
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That's a pointless comment really, as people can choose the sector they work in.

Or are you saying that people that have chosen to work in the private sector can validly say 'It's so unfair, someone in the public sector wouldn't have been made redundant, they'd have been bailed out by the government, why haven't we been?'? Public sector work often goes hand-in-hand with a public interest, so whereas a private company making a loss may have been liquidated, a public organisation's performance is usually judged by meeting the budget, reaching service levels, and making good returns on investment.

Workers know (or should know) the relative risks and rewards of each sector before they enter it. They can therefore can have no gripes when the things they knew could happen, happen. Private sector workers moaning about 'why should they escape the pain' knew what they were signing up for and if they didn't like it, they should have applied for public sector jobs.

There are pros and cons of each sector. Public sector workers might get cushty benefits and generous working hours, but the potential for reward in the private sector is usually greater. Swings and roundabouts.
 
Windle said:
About time Public Sector workers felt the pain that everyone else in the private sector has been going through for some time.
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Lets not over-dramatise things, shall we?

The majority of private companies have gone through restructuing/redundancies/pay freezes etc.
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This is not the case at all - a minority of companies suffered redunancies, and some of them simply used the recession as a useful cover to rid themselves of people they didnt really need anyway.

Don't forget that generally speaking, the public sector is a land of reasonably poor wages but excellent stability. The private sector is a land of better wages but less stability. It's a tradeoff.
 
[TW]Fox;16805253 said:
Lets not over-dramatise things, shall we?



This is not the case at all - a minority of companies suffered redunancies, and some of them simply used the recession as a useful cover to rid themselves of people they didnt really need anyway.

Don't forget that generally speaking, the public sector is a land of reasonably poor wages but excellent stability. The private sector is a land of better wages but less stability. It's a tradeoff.
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That may be the case where you stay but in Scotland there have been a lot of cuts already seen in the Private sector.

I'm fully aware of the pros/cons of Public vs Private employment, my comment was directed more at some of the replies along the lines of "Will I stay get my payrise?". The country is in debt, cuts have to be made. Public Sector has been due these cuts for quite a while following Labour using it as a job creation system.
 
It really depends how much you earn, some of the staff in the section I work in earn 15k a year, why shouldnt they get a rise and target the top earners, but what would you class as a top earner? 20,30,40,50k???

I often hear someone who works for me moan about her husband who sells cars, he has a basic of 18k, and as car sales have been bad the past few years he has not done well, but in the good years 3-4 years ago was making upto 60-70k from sales.

The public is now just being used as a scapegoat and the Daily fail posting crap about earning being 30% higher in the public sector is garbage, every friend I have that works in the private sector earns a good 10-20k more then me a year.

We dont receive a profit share, bonus, cars, free food, gyms or any other type of benefit as some of those in the private sector, the only reason I have to do a good job is that I want to, the service I run is very successful, I work around 45-50 hours a week without any overtime pay and then all that happens is you get smashed to pieces in the press.
 
Windle said:
About time Public Sector workers felt the pain that everyone else in the private sector has been going through for some time. The majority of private companies have gone through restructuing/redundancies/pay freezes etc. Why should the public sector escape?
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Boring. Really really boring.
 
Moses99p said:
Yeah, but you get pretty nice pension perks.
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What stops private sectors workers who earn more a year investing for their pension? What stops them getting a job in the public sector if it's such a great place to work? Pension perks are only really applicable to those on the top salaries, by the time many people get near retirement age there probably won't be any option to retire early unless it's for health reasons, so what are these perks you seem to have expert knowledge about?
 
The pension would be nice but it keeps changing, its changed three times in 9 years for me already, add that to the fact that at the moment I wont get any state pension until I am 68 I am going to need all the pension I can get.

I would be very interested in a real public v private pay report on like for like jobs looking at the job I do Contract Managment that seems to pay 15-25k more then I earn in the private server and provides a car.

I would also be interested in peoples views of what is too much money to earn in the public service, surely if you pay crap money you get crap people.

If they capped the money people could earn in the public sector shouldnt they share the pain and cap private earnings, but thats never going to happen is it and rightly so.
 
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I work in the private sector and haven't had a pay rise for two years now. What surprises me is that the public sector have gone on as if nothing has happened.
 
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