Virgin Media looking at 400Mbps broadband

groen said:
400mbit download and 2mbit upload

lol

There realy is not much need to increase download any higher than 100mbit. Especially when upload is still so pathetic.
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of course there is. TV on demand, streaming blu ray movies.

Remember virgin isn't just an ISp, they are tv provider with teh best on demand service available. imagine what it would be like if they could stream at those speeds.
 
Cooper said:
Yeah right up until your local UBR becomes overloaded and you fight for months to get them to upgrade capacity....in the meantime you'll have a connection that makes 56k seem fast.
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because copper lines aren't ever overloaded. Or the fact that even overloaded virgin is still faster than many places that get 1-6mb.

been on and of virgin for 9 years, never had an issue with them. Had plenty of issues with adsl, slowing down and being rubbish.
 
AcidHell2 said:
because copper lines aren't ever overloaded. Or the fact that even overloaded virgin is still faster than many places that get 1-6mb.

been on and of virgin for 9 years, never had an issue with them. Had plenty of issues with adsl, slowing down and being rubbish.
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Well good for you...but im talking from personal experience...

Its not just the drop in speed that goes, its the lot, packet loss, DNS errors, ping times.....
 
What's the point?

Why not improve the infrastructure to alleviate the need for bandwidth capping, instead of giving us far more bandwidth than we could ever need, and cap it so we'd use up the allocated amount in a couple of minutes.
 
AcidHell2 said:
of course there is. TV on demand, streaming blu ray movies.

Remember virgin isn't just an ISp, they are tv provider with teh best on demand service available. imagine what it would be like if they could stream at those speeds.
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Video resolution (max)
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40.0Mbps

50Mbps should be enough to stream blu-ray as it is. Sure, that would only be a single stream but its already techinically fast enough, after that you'll get deminishing returns for single users.

It's not like a tv company will ever stream a full quality, it'll always be bastardised with compression.
 
Wish i had a 400mb line. The only problem is you are limited by the sites you dl of so it doesnt really matter anyways. This would only really be useful if you were streaming blue ray quality movies for example. That is when companies providing online rentals will really take off. If anyone can afford the price virgin puts on it!
 
Yea for a few reasons is why i said that going above 100mbit is kinda pointless.

As someone mentioned a lot of the routers don't support over 100mbit, if that, unless people use something like pfsense and a gigabit network card.

There are not many places that you could take advantage of 100mbit+ speeds. Gigabit boxes are becoming cheaper, but if you have millions of people with 400mbit connections trying to access facebook, seems pointless. I can struggle to max out my 50mbit even with fast download sources. Often it seems virgin can only give me 30mbit even from my own 100mbit box...
 
ecksmen said:
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It's not like a tv company will ever stream a full quality, it'll always be bastardised with compression.
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why? and what is needed for a blu-ray 3d film, is it almost twice as much?

It is only true as the infrastructure is not there. You also need extra capacity to stream video and use internet at the same time, or other services.
Extra capacity is needed within the network, if everyone was streaming at max bandwidth it would collapse.

There's also online software that companies are pushing. Especially Microsoft.

What ever speed becomes standard (or should I say popular enough), it will be used. Someone will come up with a good and useful way to use it.

It's just like when mp3's came out they were all 160-192. Now they are all 320kb.
 
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AcidHell2 said:
why?

It is only true as teh infastructure is not there.
You also need extra capacity to stream that and use internet at teh same time, or other services.

you also need extra capacity in teh network, if everyone was streaming at max bandwidth it would collapse.

there's also online software that comapnies are pushing.

what ever rate becomes standard, it will be used. someone will come up with a good and usefulll way to use it.

it's just liek when mop3's came out they where all 160-192. Now they are all 320kb.
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Typo heaven...but soo true!
 
The 400Mb/s product is just 8 50Mb/s channels bonded together, as per DOCSIS 3.

What we really need is better upload speeds, 10Mb/s minimum. I'd love to be able to backup online, but it's just not practical.
The 50Mb/s Cable service could actually support up to 30Mb/s upload if Virgin felt like it.
 
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apatia77 said:
I only wish that VM was cheaper, they must have the most expensive broadband in UK.
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Where do you get that idea?

Virgin 50MB is only ~£3/month more than bt total broadband option 3 (the "unlimited" one)...

Virgin 50MB = 11.99 for phone line + 28.00 for 50mb... no limits
BT Total 3 = 11.75 for phone line + 24.99 for up to 24mbit... which has a 100GB FUP



Then these are nothing compared to places that don't have LLU
 
crinkleshoes said:
Where do you get that idea?

Virgin 50MB is only ~£3/month more than bt total broadband option 3 (the "unlimited" one)...

Virgin 50MB = 11.99 for phone line + 28.00 for 50mb... no limits
BT Total 3 = 11.75 for phone line + 24.99 for up to 24mbit... which has a 100GB FUP



Then these are nothing compared to places that don't have LLU
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and horrendous traffic shaping if you hammer them via Virgin...whichever way you look at it, broadband isn't unlimited in any shape or form...
 
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