Virgin Media looking at 400Mbps broadband

Makes you laugh. The film, game and music industry keeps complaining about piracy and more isp's keep upping the download speeds. :confused:

People will talk about TV on demand but most of that speed will be on downloading blu-rays etc.
 
3dcandy said:
and horrendous traffic shaping if you hammer them via Virgin...whichever way you look at it, broadband isn't unlimited in any shape or form...
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there is no shaping, limits, caps on 50mb package.

Cyclone said:
Makes you laugh. The film, game and music industry keeps complaining about piracy and more isp's keep upping the download speeds. :confused:
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whys that confusing.
The games/movie industry also has legal ways of internet purchasing.
 
AcidHell2 said:
whys that confusing.
The games/movie industry also has legal ways of internet purchasing.
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Well it's not like steam gives you full speed on a 50 meg service, prob about 20 at a good time. Songs dl to quick anyway...

So these movies (Bly-ray) 6GB-45Gb are the things where the speeds make a difference.
I doubt any home user would have 400 meg, expensive as he'll and prob unused.
Vm need to get this 10meg upload out to people on 50meg packages.
1.5Mb/s ish up is silly..

Also I guess iTunes do films. I'm guessing they are a normal size on 800MB. On a 50meg they are quick enough. I think I get around 40meg speeds when downloading updates from iTunes.
 
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There are many more services than itunes for films.

There is no point having full qaulity films, when no one can download them.
10mb upload will come as BT have 10mb upload on there optical cable network. Virgin would be mad not to respond.
 
AcidHell2 said:
whys that confusing.
The games/movie industry also has legal ways of internet purchasing.
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Its going to make piracy even easier.

Im on 20meg and I can download a bluray in 5-6 hours (yes I've tried).
With this connection its going to take less than an hour.
 
piracy si easier, there is no need to stream when pirating. I doubt it will have much effect overall on pirating. However it will have massive effect on legal services, where it needs to stream and/or download very quickly Unlike praters which can and do leave machines on over night. Legitimate services need to be very fast.
when legitimate sources are available I wonder what pirates excuse will be then. Won't be able to say it isn't in full qaulity.
 
Robbie G said:
Speak for yourself.

I'm on 20Mb at the moment and whilst I crave higher upload speeds (uploading to FlickR and photobucket is painfully slow), I am more interested in downloading at pace. I know a fast download needs a certain upload speed, but the headline figure that most people concentrate on is the download speed, so I can see why they're concentrating on this.

In the age of HD movies, it would incredible for a 10GB blu-ray rip to be downloaded in a matter of minutes. Gonna need a bigger HDD if this comes to fruition.
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I'm on 20Mb and most 1080P films are 9Gb which takes 55mins to download which I think is great.

Beansprout said:
With a 10Gb cap :p
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I've never been on STM this year with VM and I download 100Gb + pm. I'd rather have their STM than a hard cap.
 
AcidHell2 said:
piracy si easier, there is no need to stream when pirating. I doubt it will have much effect overall on pirating. However it will have massive effect on legal services, where it needs to stream and/or download very quickly Unlike praters which can and do leave machines on over night. Legitimate services need to be very fast.
when legitimate sources are available I wonder what pirates excuse will be then. Won't be able to say it isn't in full qaulity.
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Our excuse will be it's expensive.
All the films I've downloaded I would provably not even buy 10% of them. Used to buy DVDs.
But now I don't like watching anything what isn't 720p or higher as it just looks rather bad. Anyway..

Piracy will never end so. I also get quicker dl speeds on my netload account then I do from iTunes,steam, amazon music etc. When paying the amount it is for the 50meg broadband, you want to get the very best out of it.
Streaming high quality things in the future will be very good. It's like tv's will die...
Tvcatchup - free service for the majority of the freebies channels.
Movies also online legit or not. So with quicker Internet speeds there's just more reasons to not have a tv.
Get the odd show streamed on the Internet, mainly sports as far as I know
 
Beansprout said:
With a 10Gb cap :p
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3dcandy said:
and horrendous traffic shaping if you hammer them via Virgin...whichever way you look at it, broadband isn't unlimited in any shape or form...
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Wrong.

The 50mb service is completely uncapped, unshaped and truly unlimited. I can download from Usenet at 6mb/sec solid all day every day. Bring on the 400mb ;) :D

mattyg said:
Its all gearing towards on demand tv.
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VM already have a pretty decent TV On Demand service.
 
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I like to see Virgin pushing tech and all that but they concern me with their spying on what your downloading and there throttling on services lower than 50meg which is terribly bad.

Looking good though
 
Even with STM you can still download over 100GB a day on the 20Mb service which should be sufficient for even heavy downloaders. And if you simply plan your downloads you can still download large amounts and not ever hit the STM.
 
AcidHell2 said:
why? data costs. It's a way of providing cheaper service to the masses who don't use loads of data.
If you want to use loads of data you have to pay for it.
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craig3000 said:
I like to see Virgin pushing tech and all that but they concern me with their spying on what your downloading and there throttling on services lower than 50meg which is terribly bad.

Looking good though
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Exactly... plus they're one of the only companies who are truly open and honest about exactly how much you download before the STM kicks in - which is good in my books... with Be/O2

Plus if you pay the extra for 50mbit, you get an 0800 uk based support number + no limits or traffic shaping... and price-wise it's not really all that much more than much much worse services.

The only ones who compete for performance are Be/O2... which is just over half the price... but you get less than half the speed... so you get exactly what you pay for!
 
whats the point ? the hard drives cant go that speeds can they ?

id much rather they worked on raising the silly download limits of there lower speed services

im not impatient enough to need 50mb/s quite yet
 
apatia77 said:
50Mbps is already crazy for personal use but 400 OMG. Downloading HD movies in minutes :)

I am very happy with my 20Mbps
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I'd love to get 1080p movies in minutes :(
But I'm still on ADSL2, getting only 5mb due to living so far from exhange
 
Virgin need to look at UBR oversubscription as a priority if they are to trial even faster speeds.

When i was on VM 20MB here in Stoke we would always have UBR problems and i bet nothing has changed.
 
"andy" said:
whats the point ? the hard drives cant go that speeds can they ?

id much rather they worked on raising the silly download limits of there lower speed services

im not impatient enough to need 50mb/s quite yet
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400Mb is 50MB/s~ slower than a HDD from the last 5 years or more. However the programs for downloading tend to thrash disks with high download speeds as they just aren't made for it and don't cache and write intelligently enough.
 
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