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Can anybody recommend a decent inexpensive logo deisgn service? I am looking for a simple logo for my blog/site and realise it is beyound my own capabilities.
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Anyone can have a creative idea, not just those who are into graphics/art.
I recommend buying a graphics card and giving it to the person on here who gives the best design. It is what OCUk did for their logo.
I recommend buying a graphics card and giving it to the person on here who gives the best design. It is what OCUk did for their logo.
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Well I was just thinking of some text with the site name and some kind of related symbol, something simple in a two or three colours. There seem to be plenty of £30, £50, £100 design service websites etc but I was wondering if anybody has used one and if they are any good?
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Why not just ask for suggestions in GD or in here? Who knows, someone might come up with something you like and you'll have saved whatever you might have paid for a professional job.
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Thanks gamer_boy, well I'm open to suggestions you can see my own attempt below. I didn't want to just go with text and thought of possibly having a monitor made from building blocks as the actual logo part
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Seen as you're willing to pay, you could try posting on http://www.logomyway.com/
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Cheers Spunky that site looks like an interesting solution 
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Oh jesus someone actually suggested a logo contest website. A small animal dies every time someone suggests a "you do the work and maybe you'll get paid" website.
If you want a proper logo you're going to have to pay for it, which by the looks of things you don't mind. But please for the love of god do not use a design contest website/crowdsourcing.
If you want a proper logo you're going to have to pay for it, which by the looks of things you don't mind. But please for the love of god do not use a design contest website/crowdsourcing.
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I completely agree with you here.
However I would disagree here.
While the OP is happy to pay £30/£50/£100 for a logo design, for a worthwhile, reputable design company, that's a fraction of what you'll need. That's why I suggested logomyway.
I agree crowdsourcing websites are on the whole crap, but for a small business/1 man band, that's pretty much the best they're going to get. Plus if some monkey with photoshop wants to make a few quid by designing logos, let them. The kind of business these websites attract is in a whole other league to the kind of company who will go to a professional agency and give them the job, so it's not like it's 'stealing food from the table' as it were.
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It's not just what the person will get for their money from using a crowdsourcing website, it's actually using it and therefore promoting this awful way.
For the same amount of money you're much better off finding a student whos at uni or just graduated looking for bits of work. You'll actually get something half decent then instead of 99% using MS Word clip art, stolen logos (which you can get sued for if the other company finds out), or general crap.
I'm not saying it is anything like stealing food from someones table as they are completely different markets the OP and agencies are aiming for, but it's adding fuel to the fire of crowdsourcing and keeping it alive which is a disgrace.
If you are going to pay £100 for a logo design then please email me via trust and I will put you in contact with a few people that are just starting off in the industry and would possibly work with that amount. You would get a much better result than the crap churned out on crowdsourcing websites and you would know you haven't harmed the industry but helped someone starting off in it.
For the same amount of money you're much better off finding a student whos at uni or just graduated looking for bits of work. You'll actually get something half decent then instead of 99% using MS Word clip art, stolen logos (which you can get sued for if the other company finds out), or general crap.
I'm not saying it is anything like stealing food from someones table as they are completely different markets the OP and agencies are aiming for, but it's adding fuel to the fire of crowdsourcing and keeping it alive which is a disgrace.
If you are going to pay £100 for a logo design then please email me via trust and I will put you in contact with a few people that are just starting off in the industry and would possibly work with that amount. You would get a much better result than the crap churned out on crowdsourcing websites and you would know you haven't harmed the industry but helped someone starting off in it.
The thing with crowdsourcing is that very often you might not get the highly polished finished result - but what you will get a *a lot* of concepts. I think we had about 200 odd concepts for a project we were working on. Whilst most of them were rubbish (3/4 or so!) it was great to see so many ideas.
What lots of people do, is use crowdsourcing to get a whole bunch of concepts, and then take those to a proper designer (or student designer) and give them a base to work from.
What lots of people do, is use crowdsourcing to get a whole bunch of concepts, and then take those to a proper designer (or student designer) and give them a base to work from.
Not with an insidious rights-grab in the contest T&Cs, like every contest has these days
Thought that would be the case. Silly, desperate people
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Would you be paying for the initial concepts you are using? Otherwise you're even worse than the people that are at least paying someone, you're allowing tens/hundreds of people to work for nothing.
Why can't this "proper designer" you talk of come up with his own concepts? If he is a "proper" designer then I'm sure he would want to use his own concepts and not some knock-off crappy idea 1 person with no design experience thinks is good.
It's not something I've done personally - but when I have used crowdsourcing at all, when you invest in managing the project i've been happy with the results.
One designer only has one brain and one imagination.
But the real issue here is that you seem to have a real grudge about crowdsourcing.... Who do you think is winning contests on the crowdsource sites? It couldn't be student designers and the like, could it?
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One brain and one imagination would be good enough if you pick the right designer. One experienced brain is much better to work with than 100 in-experienced ones. It would be wasting time and effort for both designer and client.
Yes I do have a massive grudge against crowdsourcing as I have said many times on these forums as it is detrimental to the industry. Where else would you expect work to be done for free then only pay for 1/100, if you think it is good enough. You wouldn't walk into a dentist, get your tooth fixed then say "I don't feel like paying, it's not working for me" would you? Yes it's a ridiculous comparison but at the end of the day someone's livelyhood and earnings revolve around getting paid for the work they spend time doing, and you'd happily let them waste their time and not pay them a penny.
It could well be the student designers that are competing on the crowdsourcing websites as they don't know any better. And by promoting the websites you are allowing these people to work for next to nothing and not get a real feel for the industry. This is why the people working within the industry and clients looking to get something done, like the OP, need educating to stop it all.
I was a student designer/developer at one point, I never touched these websites as you would be working X time and getting paid around £1ph for your efforts. Absolutely pointless.
It makes people coming into the industry, for both work and as a client purposes look at it in a different light. It is a skilled trade, it isn't something anyone can do with a downloaded copy of Photoshop. It takes time, effort and skill to do properly and I don't see why anyone should expect something for free in this industry when the don't anywhere else in the world.
Things like this can even have a greater knock-on effect as a client can come to an experienced designer and ask for a logo for £50. They're friend got one off a crowdsourcing website for that price so why won't the experienced designer do it. It' detrimental to the industry like I have said and these sorts of websites should never be promoted or used.
I could go on for hours over crowdsourcing and how bad it is for both the end user and industry but I won't as it irritates the hell out of me and I say the same thing over and over to people.
Yes I do have a massive grudge against crowdsourcing as I have said many times on these forums as it is detrimental to the industry. Where else would you expect work to be done for free then only pay for 1/100, if you think it is good enough. You wouldn't walk into a dentist, get your tooth fixed then say "I don't feel like paying, it's not working for me" would you? Yes it's a ridiculous comparison but at the end of the day someone's livelyhood and earnings revolve around getting paid for the work they spend time doing, and you'd happily let them waste their time and not pay them a penny.
It could well be the student designers that are competing on the crowdsourcing websites as they don't know any better. And by promoting the websites you are allowing these people to work for next to nothing and not get a real feel for the industry. This is why the people working within the industry and clients looking to get something done, like the OP, need educating to stop it all.
I was a student designer/developer at one point, I never touched these websites as you would be working X time and getting paid around £1ph for your efforts. Absolutely pointless.
It makes people coming into the industry, for both work and as a client purposes look at it in a different light. It is a skilled trade, it isn't something anyone can do with a downloaded copy of Photoshop. It takes time, effort and skill to do properly and I don't see why anyone should expect something for free in this industry when the don't anywhere else in the world.
Things like this can even have a greater knock-on effect as a client can come to an experienced designer and ask for a logo for £50. They're friend got one off a crowdsourcing website for that price so why won't the experienced designer do it. It' detrimental to the industry like I have said and these sorts of websites should never be promoted or used.
I could go on for hours over crowdsourcing and how bad it is for both the end user and industry but I won't as it irritates the hell out of me and I say the same thing over and over to people.
I could be wrong, but I seem to remember the breakdown being:
71% font thieves,
19% iStock cut-n-pasters,
9% Vectoreezy goodwill abusers,
0.00001% Liam, an eight year old boy from Redditch who's dead chuffed and can now afford a 50p mix [no bubblegum].
