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Fair enough, it sounded like you were in 2 different locations and you just saw each other less frequently.

I'm in the same situation as you, I moved in to my other half's mams house, been living there for 3 years now and I'm not going anywhere until we can properly move out, rent is next to nothing so it makes saving money sooo much easier, especially as I live in brighton and it costs a fortune for anything here.
 
Musty Pie said:
thanks as above i think i might be popping you a mail int the near future! the way you explained the 7 day Tokyo 7 day travel is what i personally had in mind. Just the passes for the trains are so expensive :(

Ah well it will be worth it in the end
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cool, well my e-mail should be in my trust if you ever need it. :)
 
Sp00n said:
Fair enough, it sounded like you were in 2 different locations and you just saw each other less frequently.

I'm in the same situation as you, I moved in to my other half's mams house, been living there for 3 years now and I'm not going anywhere until we can properly move out, rent is next to nothing so it makes saving money sooo much easier, especially as I live in brighton and it costs a fortune for anything here.
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Ahh brighton was there 2 weekends ago when the weather was ace! gotta love it there!

Yeah saving money is much easier when the rent is less to stay at home etc.
We do not live apart but i understand how it might seem like that from what i have written.

It just seemed strange in MY mind that we are not technically classed as living together so being engaged might sound weird thats all.?
 
I was in japan 3 years ago and loved it, i really want to go back but money issues have been stopping me.

I was there for 10 days, spend 5 days total in tokyo, a few days in kyoto and a few days in hiroshima, and there really wasn't enough time to see everything we wanted to see, but it was a brilliant way to see a mix of old and new japan.

If you are planning to move around the country using the rail passes to their full potential and not just stay in Tokyo then i have a few places that i can recommend.

Firstly if you go to Hiroshima then check out the A-bomb memorial, it's quite something to see and hours pass by without you realising it, it's deffinetly very thought provoking.

Another place to go is Miajima, it's about half an hour train journey out of hiroshima and then a freey ride across to the island. You can use the JR Pass on the ferry to get there so it wont cost you anything additional for that. Miajima is home to the Itsukushima Shrine which is seen in loads of iconic pictures of japan. It's a brilliant little island to explore with shrines etc, has a really wild jungle to walk through (a pic i took), monkeys at the top etc. It's a fair bit of walking, but if you walk to the very top it's well worth it, you can see the entire of hiroshima bay from there, and while we were there we were watching the warships and subs come into the harbour from there.

If you go to Kyoto then i would recommend going to Nara, it was japans first capital city and really illustrates what ancient japan must have been like. When you get there you might wonder why there are deer wondering around freey in the roads and parks and it's bacause they are a sacred animal and protected there. The city is basically on a massive hill side and the stuff you want to see is higher up the hill, so we took a bus up there. Here are a few pics i took 1 2 3 4

Thats a couple of recs for places outside of tokyo, inside tokyo i would just add to what others have said by saying; try to find an all you can drink kareoke, they are brilliant fun :D Also, in Ikebukuro there is 60 story building, i think it's called sunshine city, go to the 60th floor and you will have a brilliant view of the sheer scale of tokyo and if it's a clear day you will even be able to see Mt Fuji (Pic)

A few more places to add to your list :)

EDIT: About the whole question thing. Dont let age dictate when you do it, just make sure you feel like it's the right time when you do, make sure that you can see a long future ahead of you etc. Doing it while away on holiday also has it's risks, if she was for some reason to say no while you were away that would screw up the rest of the holiday, but on the other hand it could be the most memorable moment in your life. Make sure you are sure and ultimatly you are the one who has to decide, not an internet forum.
 
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Why would you want to get married at 22? What is going to change at your relationship? You get married for a purpose, unless you are ready to have kids for example (which is too early for both of you) there is no point getting into all the trouble..
 
Musty Pie said:
It just seemed strange in MY mind that we are not technically classed as living together so being engaged might sound weird thats all.?
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I agree with that, which is why I haven't even thought about proposing, just seems silly jumping 2 steps ahead (in my mind).
 
@ Til

thanks for the info again its so much to take in and plan but im sure we will manage to squeeze in what we can.

With reference to marriage i can understand why some people would be against it at such a young age but i don't see 22-23 as being that young anymore. You have to start planning/structuring your future while you can and holding off will achieve nothing.

We will see. The fact im swaying more and more towards the idea (defending it on here) makes me more certain its what i want to do? It may seem wrong to most of you guys (most are probably thinking about smashing pasty and fapping to hot Internet girls, instead of reality) But to me its just feeling right. I mean you have to take the plunge at some point right? and i guess there would be no better time or place then Tokyo!

We will see.

Anyway more jap suggestions!

Arigatou
 
hope you have a good holiday, its on my list of places to go.

regards getting engaged, I don't think it would hurt but I felt I would feel strange being engaged but not actually living together. I havnt up till now because for 5years we were just living at parents etc but 6months ago we got a house so it feel's more right now, but still we have no reason to get engaged/married, weddings can cost a fortune and now we'd rather spend money on our house etc etc etc.

One thing i will say is, if you got cash floating around now, you probly won't have when you buy a house so saving for an engagment ring then wont be easy, so thats one reason to do it now.
 
Hank_Marvin said:
hope you have a good holiday, its on my list of places to go.

regards getting engaged, I don't think it would hurt but I felt I would feel strange being engaged but not actually living together. I havnt up till now because for 5years we were just living at parents etc but 6months ago we got a house so it feel's more right now, but still we have no reason to get engaged/married, weddings can cost a fortune and now we'd rather spend money on our house etc etc etc.

One thing i will say is, if you got cash floating around now, you probly won't have when you buy a house so saving for an engagement ring then wont be easy, so thats one reason to do it now.
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Yeah thats the other thing moving in would make planning a wedding almost impossible due to the costs involved. Unless we win the lottery getting a mortgage and planning a wedding at the same time is just not going to be possible. I'm also to proud to accept money or hands outs even if it was for my own wedding so it is really going to hurt the bank balance And thats not even factoring in kids at the age i want them.

Jesus Christ i think im having a midlife crisis on the Internet.


Breathe



That said the misses doesn't really want a big affair she would rather get married abroad and just have us two there and then have a party when we get back so i guess thats a plus?

Wow Maybe i need to just cancel this holiday and update and respec my gaming rig.

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yeah go gaming dude.

We are thinking of wedding/holiday for us too when and if we do it, then some sort of after party, should work out cheaper.
 
I know nothing about Japan so this is more generic advice but as its not by any means a holiday place I would suspect you will get far, far more out of your trip if you attempted to travel from one end of the country to the other during your 2 weeks. This means dont book the same hotel for the entire trip, just book a night or two at each hotel and make your way down :)
 
[TW]Fox;16886948 said:
I know nothing about Japan so this is more generic advice but as its not by any means a holiday place I would suspect you will get far, far more out of your trip if you attempted to travel from one end of the country to the other during your 2 weeks. This means dont book the same hotel for the entire trip, just book a night or two at each hotel and make your way down :)
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This is something that we possibly plan to do next year. By all accounts the cities are VERY different to the countryfied areas from what i am told, and as such it is a crying shame to only see one city.

I think asking somebody to marry you at 22 is a very silly idea for the record. Another likely statistic in the making. I would most certainly hold off on that front, if she likes you enough to marry you, then she'll still like you at a more appropriate age.
 
Jez said:
This is something that we possibly plan to do next year. By all accounts the cities are VERY different to the countryfied areas from what i am told, and as such it is a crying shame to only see one city.
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Totally. Unless you are going somewhere like Benidorm or something I see no value in booking 2 weeks at the same hotel. How are you supposed to get a feel for another culture and another country doing that?
 
Well if you want to travel around then

Tokyo (possible trip out to Nikko?) -> bullet train to Kyoto (possible trip out to Nara) -> bullet train to Hiroshima (trip out to Miyajima) -> bullet train back to Osaka. Thomas Cook do actually do a tour which follows this route (Samurai Experience) but it isn't cheap.

I wouldn't try and travel off the beaten track through the country unless you have a reasonable level of Japanese. I know people who have done it and away from the cities the language barrier can make things interesting. The above trip would be very expensive on your own though (bullet train tickets are not cheap and the amount of luggage you are allowed on a bullet train isn't large).

It is easy to find enough different things to do in Tokyo for two weeks. Will you get a full Japanese cultural experience, no, but you should have a good time and see a lot of interesting things.

Personally I have been to all the places Tilluss mentions and they are all good, (watch out for the thieving deer though!). But to go all those places will cost quite a bit of cash.
 
If you want to keep things relatively simple, stick to Tokyo & Kyoto, then you probably wont need the rail pass as its only 1 big return trip to pay for. The subway in Tokyo is pretty cheap so you wont need the rail pass much in Tokyo.

You will definitely have enough to keep you entertained in both of those cities for a week or more. If you are there for longer, you can consider side trips to places like Hiroshima, Osaka, Nara, Kamakura which will make good use of the rail pass. One good thing with the rail pass is that you can choose when you activate it, you dont have to activate it the second you arrive in Japan, so if you are going to do that, activate it after you have spent all your time in Tokyo.

If you want any suggestions let me know, i lived in Nagoya for a year and speak pretty good Japanese :)
 
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