Has the iphone changed much since its release?
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ah right,, is it worth that kind of money?
I think, if the phone wasnt advertised so much and stuff,, I dont think it would have done aswel??
Cos the iphone isnt much diff then a htc phone, as some ppl prefers htc phones to the iphone. Im not in any position to say what phone is best cos I havent had both phones. Ive just bought a blackberry after having a htc phone cos I couldnt do with the touchscreen on the htc. This is downgrading quite a bit I know, but what do you do if you dont like touchscreens.
I think, if the phone wasnt advertised so much and stuff,, I dont think it would have done aswel??
Cos the iphone isnt much diff then a htc phone, as some ppl prefers htc phones to the iphone. Im not in any position to say what phone is best cos I havent had both phones. Ive just bought a blackberry after having a htc phone cos I couldnt do with the touchscreen on the htc. This is downgrading quite a bit I know, but what do you do if you dont like touchscreens.
The majority of people are persuaded in buying them because of the advertising that Apple do, combine that with the hype built by the people who have them, you have a powerful thing. The only thing that is impressive for the iPhone is that it works nicely straight from the box, which appeals to a vast market (There are phones that do the same thing, but people aren't educated 
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The answer to your question is simply no. For example if you wanted to pay £300 - £400 for a 2 year old phone then you're kinda misinformed, since there are smart phones out there which are cheaper and more capable.
)The answer to your question is simply no. For example if you wanted to pay £300 - £400 for a 2 year old phone then you're kinda misinformed, since there are smart phones out there which are cheaper and more capable.
Do you mean since the original 2007 release? The hardware is broadly similar in the 2G, 3G and 3GS, but the biggest change since the inception of the iPhone is the App Store, which came in with the 2.0 software. That's been of critical importance in the iPhone's success... before the App Store, it was just a highly limited device with a nice interface.*
The secrets in my eyes are the design, the marketing, the UI and the App Store.
*Yes, many would say that it still is.
The secrets in my eyes are the design, the marketing, the UI and the App Store.
*Yes, many would say that it still is.
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The majority of people are persuaded in buying them because of the advertising that Apple do, combine that with the hype built by the people who have them, you have a powerful thing. The only thing that is impressive for the iPhone is that it works nicely straight from the box, which appeals to a vast market (There are phones that do the same thing, but people aren't educated
The answer to your question is simply no. For example if you wanted to pay £300 - £400 for a 2 year old phone then you're kinda misinformed, since there are smart phones out there which are cheaper and more capable.
Its great though, having a phone which keeps some kind of value .... unlike the HTC which is worth about 75p as within that year they have released 12 new models
I think the only reason for the relative popularity of Android / HTC is that they are cheaper and therefore more attainable.
Also dont forget that virtually every smart phone released in the last 3 years has been a rip off of the iPhone - just uglier and not quite so able. Despite the constant claims about 'iPhone killers' nothing has even come close.
Also suggesting people only buy iPhones because of the marketing is ridiculous - is Apples marketing really so amazing that it will get people to spend £500 on a phone when they were used to getting them free on a contract? I dont think so. How often do you even see iPhone adverts?
The fact that the Apple can dominate the smart phone market with only one model per year says it all IMO.
Also dont forget that virtually every smart phone released in the last 3 years has been a rip off of the iPhone - just uglier and not quite so able. Despite the constant claims about 'iPhone killers' nothing has even come close.
Also suggesting people only buy iPhones because of the marketing is ridiculous - is Apples marketing really so amazing that it will get people to spend £500 on a phone when they were used to getting them free on a contract? I dont think so. How often do you even see iPhone adverts?
The fact that the Apple can dominate the smart phone market with only one model per year says it all IMO.
Apple marketing i guess is built up over a hype. Like when that guy apparently lost his iPhone 4 it made the news and such (free advertising) and everything is built up over a hype.
Don't think i've seen an iPhone advert, only iPad ones which are very good i would say.
Don't think i've seen an iPhone advert, only iPad ones which are very good i would say.
I've got to agree with n111ck on this one.
I bought a '4 because I like the design, it works great, quality and performance is perfect and it does EVERYTHING I want in a phone
Oh wait, I must be an apple fanboy who's really dumb and likes simple phones.
I bought a '4 because I like the design, it works great, quality and performance is perfect and it does EVERYTHING I want in a phone
Oh wait, I must be an apple fanboy who's really dumb and likes simple phones.
ummm no coment, well I cant really say anything on the matter, but I wont be getting 1 cos of 2 reasons, cant cope with touch screen and Im not paying £200 - £300 for one, as I dont use a phone enough for a contract
Yes
Sorry what did the iPhone 4 do that other phones hadnt done before?
And how exactly are other OS's especially Android less capable?
So HTC and Android are only popular because they are cheap...every word spoken as a true fanboy, sorry but thats how that sounds.
Woooo.. Getting heated in here.
It seems everyone is either a apple fan boy or a apple hater. If your impartial but give the iPhone some praise you're again called a fan boy etc etc.
When the first iPhone came out, I was on holiday in New York. I was only in the apple shop because my girlfriend was buying one. Back at the hotel, had a play with it and from then, had to get one. Don't remember the mass queues and fanaticism about it back then, maybe I just wasn't aware of it.
iPhone 4 does nothing new other phones before it didn't already do. But you can't say that about the original iPhone,
After the iPhone 2g, it was obvious every other phone company were consciously making devices which imitated the iPhones touch screen interface. This is where the phrase "iPhone killer" started coming about.
I was considering getting at HTC upgrading from a iPhone 3G. In the end I just went with the 4 because I already have quite a few paid for apps which would be wasted if I went with HTC. I'm used to using an iPhone.
Some people will cut/dissect my post and say"you're used to having dropped calls, bad battery?" etc etc.
In reality I'm not a heavy phone user, my calls dont drop, my phone isn't everything to me.
The faults of the iPhone and of other phones if there are any really doesn't upset me in anyway.
I dont understand either side of the levels of emotion though when it comes to a phone.
It seems everyone is either a apple fan boy or a apple hater. If your impartial but give the iPhone some praise you're again called a fan boy etc etc.
When the first iPhone came out, I was on holiday in New York. I was only in the apple shop because my girlfriend was buying one. Back at the hotel, had a play with it and from then, had to get one. Don't remember the mass queues and fanaticism about it back then, maybe I just wasn't aware of it.
iPhone 4 does nothing new other phones before it didn't already do. But you can't say that about the original iPhone,
After the iPhone 2g, it was obvious every other phone company were consciously making devices which imitated the iPhones touch screen interface. This is where the phrase "iPhone killer" started coming about.
I was considering getting at HTC upgrading from a iPhone 3G. In the end I just went with the 4 because I already have quite a few paid for apps which would be wasted if I went with HTC. I'm used to using an iPhone.
Some people will cut/dissect my post and say"you're used to having dropped calls, bad battery?" etc etc.
In reality I'm not a heavy phone user, my calls dont drop, my phone isn't everything to me.
The faults of the iPhone and of other phones if there are any really doesn't upset me in anyway.
I dont understand either side of the levels of emotion though when it comes to a phone.
you sound just as much as a HTC fanboy as he does an apple
Pot Kettle anybody ?
No they dont
You've completely missed the point behind what attracts people to the iphone. I was queing for the iphone on the day after launch day, and there ere all sorts of people in the queue. We had 20 something year old men, who like me, were best described as geeks, however, there are were also a wider range of 20 somethings as well, we had the sort of guy that loves himself, is a bit of a player, and is quite stylish. As well as that we had 30/40 something year old women, a 30 something year old business man who was phoning his client to cancel their meeting because he was taking longer in the iphone queue than he expected !
There are all walks of life, and the reason why normal people get the iphone is that they are attracted by its simplicity. In exactly the same way your mum is scared of crawling under the desk and messing about with cables (in case she "blows up" the average person on the street is scared by your average smartphone with all its bells and whistles and widgets etc.. They like itunes because it gives them one single program to get content onto their phones. You only have to listen to chris moyles on radio 1 harking on about how simple to use itunes is to realise it appeals to normal people ( who probably dont even know this forum exists) on a level the other phones cant match.
They dont care that the iphone cant be used to bluetooth music to their friends, because they probably dont have a clue what bluetooth is anyway. They dont care that the phone doesnt have an app that turns it into a wireless acess point because they wouldnt know what to do with it if they had it. Thats why, despite being less "functional" than other phones they still sell. Because the people who buy them dont know or wouldnt use the features that other phones have.
People perceive the marking and the hype as the sole reason iphones sell and its just so not. People know what they're buying, and yes the advertising brings in awareness, but its the quality of the UI, the ease of use, and the excellent hardware design that attracts people.
There are a hardcore of apple fans, who are big style geeks, and fully understand all the tech etc.. but go into an apple store and look at who'se buying these things and you'll see that represents a tiny minority of the average apple userbase. Its mostly average people, with normal jobs on the highsteet etc.. who just want a phone thats easy to use, stylish, and the fact its seen as very popular and a bit of an icon is probably a bonus for them. But its not the only reason. Your mum likes the fact its got a single app store, with 500,000 + apps in it, they like the fact you can download music, videos, films, podcasts, photos, ringtimes etc.. from itunes and just click sync and it all happens for them.
Its the apple ethos towards computing - you dont need to know whats going on under the hood and just trust the technology to get on with it. the other phones give that extra level of control - like the ability to rootkit it, install froyo on it etc.. but those sort of users are part of the same techie group minority that apple has. The reason apple phones sell so well is they appeal to more than that sort of usergroup. The HTC phones dont tend to.
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The iPhone is the sum of its parts - its been 3 years and despite countless imitations nothing has really come close. Fanboy or not thats really hard to dispute.
HTC and Andriod are cheaper though - if you cant afford an iPhone they are the obvious choice (and seem to come complete with a chip for your shoulder).
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I believe the iPhone made the smartphone accessible/acceptable for the mainstream market.
Before that business men had Blackberries and rich fools or geeks had Nokia smartphones.
Before that business men had Blackberries and rich fools or geeks had Nokia smartphones.
Thats the thing tho, people dont hate the phone - at least i dont, it is a good phone.
The problem I have is with people who buy all the crap Jobs is saying and see him as the second coming of Christ and then try to convert others to this new religion.
For example:
- relative popularity of Android / HTC is that they are cheaper and therefore more attainable
- virtually every smart phone released in the last 3 years has been a rip off of the iPhone - just uglier and not quite so able
- The fact that the Apple can dominate the smart phone market with only one model per year says it all IMO.
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- its been 3 years and despite countless imitations nothing has really come close.
- HTC and Andriod are cheaper though - if you cant afford an iPhone they are the obvious choice (and seem to come complete with a chip for your shoulder).
I simply can not understand how people can be such sheep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg&feature=player_embedded
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Are any of the above incorrect?
exactly my point - it attracts a whole different userbase who previously would have put up with a crap £50 PAYG phone because they "couldnt work anything else" - however irrational that may be. You only have to work in IT support to experience the sort of stupid irrational decisions that the older generations can make to realise why this happens.
Nothing. But what you don't seem to understand is people buying it know that, they realise it has limitations.
They're just more enjoyable to use than other phones due in part to the GUI and also the integration with iTunes and the App store.
The hardware is better too, in my opinion of course.
It isn't.
That would be one of the reasons, I guess. You can get an Android phone for £99, so the platform itself has a wider audience. Not everyone can, or wants to spend £500 on a phone.
There's also people like yourself, who either prefer the software/hardware or simply dislike Apple. Doesn't make the Nexus/Droid/Evo etc. any better or worse than the iPhone.