Disable people and housing.

Colbaker said:
Or maybe build a block of flats specifically built for disabled people maybe?
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And what if the "disabled" people don't like the location of the block of flats?

Oddly enough a lot of disabled people might like to live near their friends, family, carers etc, the current system is flexible enough to generally allow for that, if you have a block of flats just for disabled people you lose that flexibility (not to mention you get the problem of having to build it in the first place).

What putting them all into a block of flats does, is create a ghetto effectively.
 
There's a huge issue most people in this thread are missing.


Disabled people are not a second class ****ing commodity to move around, to make way for able-bodied people. They are people first, disability second.
 
O.k. i understand these are people but lets then look at other parts of society, Now the new government has reduced housing benefit many people will not be able to afford to live where they currently do.

For instance people who are on housing benefits and live in area's of london like westminster and now have to move, Do you believe they should have to move away from all of there friends and family (i.e a support group) or would you, as a tax payer, want to continue paying out large amounts of money so they can live in an area that most people who are able to work cannot offord?
 
robbiemc said:
A bungalow does seem like the best solution in this circumstance, but it could be that there simply aren’t any available, you certainly don’t see many bungalows being built these days (as it’s not a good return on investment if you can choose to build a 2 story house instead).

As for the car, are you positive it’s a Motability car? If so then she can allow someone else to drive it, but only if it’s for the owners benefit – i.e doing the shopping, picking up prescriptions etc, so if the other people are using it for their own recreational use then that’s something Motability will take a dim view of. She may not be aware of this, so maybe you could mention it to her? Often in these cases Motability will refuse to allow you to participate in their lease scheme, so it’s in her interest.

If she’s completely unable to drive it she can call Motability to request an early end to the lease (citing changing mobility circumstances). As she’ll be paying for this out of her benefits it sounds like that may be the best course of action.
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I don't think this point is strictly true. Two other people can be nominated as drivers and naturally need to be available for the benefit recipient. However the car is free to be used by said nominated drivers. There is no stipulation of how DLA money is used by it's recipient and it is High Rate Mobility DLA payments that are commuted to pay for the Motability vehicle.

You may be confusing it with the blue badge scheme where clearly the person with the disability needs to be the driver or passenger of the vehicle at time of its use.
 
Forde said:
There's a huge issue most people in this thread are missing.


Disabled people are not a second class ****ing commodity to move around, to make way for able-bodied people. They are people first, disability second.
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Thank god someone has said this, I was getting more and more angry reading this thread. The attitude of some people is shocking.
 
-BA- said:
I don't think this point is strictly true. Two other people can be nominated as drivers and naturally need to be available for the benefit recipient. However the car is free to be used by said nominated drivers. There is no stipulation of how DLA money is used by it's recipient and it is High Rate Mobility DLA payments that are commuted to pay for the Motability vehicle.

You may be confusing it with the blue badge scheme where clearly the person with the disability needs to be the driver or passenger of the vehicle at time of its use.
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Actually you could be right on a number of bits here. Two drivers are allowed to be on the insurance, but a third can be added at an extra cost, but you could be right about me getting confused with the Blue Badge (I actually use one as I'm in a wheelchair). Motability do change their rules and allowances quite frequently however, but I'm pretty sure that the cars aren't supposed to be used for a non-carer activities (i.e a friend using it for their sole use).

There is no stipulation of how DLA money is used by it's recipient and it is High Rate Mobility DLA payments that are commuted to pay for the Motability vehicle.
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I knew this, but it's useful to make that point for others who aren't aware of the details.
 
Op, you do realise these are human beings, not pieces of furniture?

You wouldn't like it, living in a house all your life to be told you have to move to a tiny bungalow.

The way to free up more council houses for low income familys, is to kick out all the doley scum who refuse to work, into a big complex building where they're given food and water and made to hunt for jobs all day. If they move out of this program of job finding they get nothing, no food, no water, no roof over their head.
Leave the houses for working families or people who cannot work only.
 
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I get around said:
Op, you do realise these are human beings, not pieces of furniture?

You wouldn't like it, living in a house all your life to be told you have to move to a tiny bungalow.

The way to free up more council houses for low income familys, is to kick out all the doley scum who refuse to work into a big complex building where they're given food and water and made to hunt for jobs all day. If they move out of this program of job finding they get nothing, no food, no water, no roof over their head.
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I know they are human beings, I have nothing against them, it is not their fault they are disabled, It's more of a moan about suitable housing, Also are dole sponges not human beings then?
 
-BA- that's totally wrong.

On the authority of my dad. Who uses the motability scheme. What is occuring there is fraud if what is written is accurate.
 
Psymonkee said:
-BA- that's totally wrong.

On the authority of my dad. Who uses the motability scheme. What is occuring there is fraud if what is written is accurate.
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This is what i thought, I have not seen her get picked up in it for over a year now, She also has a disabled parking space outside her house where she would have parked it but i see it maybe once a week and sometimes every 2 weeks and that is never over night, Most of the time i just see the guy who has it driving around the town.
 
Apparently it's a requirement of the zero tax band the vehicle is placed in requiring the use to be by or for the benefit of the persons receiving the DLA
 
Typical benefits handouts in UK, some people get everything even things they don't need or they get too much and there are the ones where they don't have enough for even food.

The moment I was made redundant I was told to sell my house. I told them I would make a loss if I did it because of the recession. They couldn't care less.
 
Colbaker said:
This is what i thought, I have not seen her get picked up in it for over a year now, She also has a disabled parking space outside her house where she would have parked it but i see it maybe once a week and sometimes every 2 weeks and that is never over night, Most of the time i just see the guy who has it driving around the town.
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No doubt milking the blue badge for all it's worth.

I'll agree to an extent, if it's a council house, they should look at relocating the person as comfortably as possible rather than going to a disproportionate cost to modify the house to the extent they could go.
 
We need to relocate the disabled parking spaces to the rear of car parks too, survival of the fittest, if they can make it to the supermarket to get their shopping then they were worthy!
 
Morgoth - my dad's been saying that for years. If you require a wheelchair then you probably don't need to park at the front door.

The only benefit a disabled parking bay provides (and parent and child too) is extra space to load/unload said wheelchair (or in some cases walkers)

A blue badge is supposed to be issued to someone 'unable or virtually unable to walk'

Somehow I reckon if you can walk round a supermarket (be it with the aid of a trolley/walking stick) then you probably don't meet the definition above!

Move those spaces :D
 
to the OP, it does sound like she is abusing the system a little. she maybe feels a bit annoyed at life and thinks if others are bleeding the system, she may aswell too. it's a problem with the system, not her. bottom line is though, it's really none of your business and you need to get on with your life, which is not full of the obstacles the lady in question will have to deal with due to her disability.
 
Colbaker said:
I know they are human beings, I have nothing against them, it is not their fault they are disabled, It's more of a moan about suitable housing, Also are dole sponges not human beings then?
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Dole sponges are human beings, but the big difference is they are scum, their crime of laziness and refusal to work should not go unpunished.

Disabled parking spaces must be by the front doors of a building because it's difficult for cars to see wheelchairs crossing a carpark.
 
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