Where on earth do you think the SAS gain their intelligence from? Are you saying the Security Service provides poor intelligence?
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Where on earth do you think the SAS gain their intelligence from? Are you saying the Security Service provides poor intelligence?
That was in English.
The 7/7 and/or 21/7 men had been caught in MI5/police surveillance (at least of other parties that they had an interest in - I can't remember if they were under direct surveillance).
This included them running up and down while wearing backpacks (so training to run with a bomb)
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They're undoubtedly going to start linking psychosis with steroids, and bodybuilding with it. Like we haven't had all this **** before. *Sigh*
I just hope they catch the guy before he does anything stupid, and without further loss of life, even his own.
I just hope they catch the guy before he does anything stupid, and without further loss of life, even his own.
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Army intelligence?
Not just the Intelligence Corps rypt.
The military get their intelligence from all sources. MI5, MI6, GCHQ, CIA, etc.
They do not solely rely on their own intelligence capability and resources.
You are fighting a losing battle here!
You mean the people who failed to identify JcDM properly.
Wasn't an army op afaik, was being done by Met Police anti-terror folk (with maybe some MI5 help)
Shows how much you know then really, each S012 unit had attached an army surveillance officer, more than likely an SRR member.
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No. Still at large.
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Except that SRR involvement has never been admitted by the police, and we only have a few sources that state that SRR were ... but even then it is believed that SRR were not involved in the tailing of him on the bus, or the final shooting.
The fact that intelligence said "he might be a man of interest, don't let him get on the tube" is not the same as "he's a terrorist, shoot him" ... those "calls", on how to act on any info given is down to the Met who ran the show, and not to any intelligence officers.
I have the same Camelbak as her, the black military version
That police sniper from the BBC article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10536881.stm) does look pretty good, or at least the back of her head
My attempts at educating him a bit on these matters seemed to fall on deaf ears.
No, because you insist that a better trained unit would have acted the same, while I say that a better trained unit were they running the whole show would not have made the same call (and would not need 7 shots)
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What you had in London were officers who may have had the training, but never had the real life exposure to the situation as we have not had any issues since the NI/IRA trouble (thankfully).
That is the same thing happening now, we have officers who may have the training, but do not have any real life experience doing the job.
The SAS all rotate in/out of the counter-terror role, so they are all front line serving troops and do the whole storm compound, find person, etc thing day-in, day-out.
The same argument could be made of many other police special operations around the world, however the likes of SWAT in America have to deal with more stuff daily (including school shootings, crazy armed guys, and so on)
Further more, if the special branch/operations folk are so good, how come the SAS have had to do their jobs previously, including during the Embassy and Prison sieges ... could it be perhaps that they are BETTER at it, due to (as I said) doing it day in, day out in warzones.
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