Galaxy S / HTC Desire

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Looking at phones. Not had a phone for a couple of years now, and prior to that was using a Nokia 6210 since about 2001 or so.

I've seen a few deals on the web for 20-25 a month with T-mobile , unlimited data unlimited texts and some minutes.

I'm led to believe these are the 2 best phones out there ATM -(discount Iphone, it's way too expensive)

So which is best, and which should I go for?
My main priority would be data / email / web. Camera, possibility of tethering? and audio/mp3 playback and games.
Also what is the battery life like? will it last a few days?
 
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Well the differences are as follows:

Screen: Samsung has 4.0" Super AMOLED, Desire has 3.6" AMOLED, possibly soon to be S-LCD
CPU: Samsung has 1Ghz Hummingbird CPU and PowerVR GPU, Desire has 1Ghz Snapdragon CPU and no dedicated GPU
RAM: Bout the same
SD: Galaxy has 8/16GB in built internal memory and a slot, Desire doesnt have built in card but has a slot
Build: Galaxy apes the iPhone from the front, is very light, doesn't feel too flimsy and is very thin for a smartphone BUT is totally plastic. Desire has a nice rubberised metal case and its own style and is frankly the better of the two appearance wise
Camera: Desire has a flash and 5 Mpixel, Galaxy has no flash and 5 Mpixel, but its pretty good in low light for me.
OS: Galaxy has Android 2.1 with Samsung TouchWiz 3.0, Desire has Android 2.1 with HTC Sense, both can be modified as you wish and both are due a Froyo 2.2 update, the Desire will probably get it first.
Battery Life: Both will probably give you around a day of usage (i.e. WiFi on for some of it, GPS on), maybe 2 if you arn't a "fiddler". I have been re-charging my Galaxy overnight though.
Multi-touch: The Galaxy's multitouch hardware is definately better than the Desires, though for the very vague usage it currently gets in Android (pinch to zoom) it's hard to notice.

Other things of note: the Desire has a nice optical trackpad, the Galaxy doesn't.

Really though, both are very fast, both are very pleasant to use and both have their merits. I *think* the Desire still pips it for me just because its build quality is better and it has a flash, but I have a Galaxy S purely cos Orange (who i'm with) havent had stock for weeks, and still don't!

I'm very happy with the Samsung, but either are great phones.

ultimately, if you can, go and have a play.

EDIT: Forgot to say, as both have Android, really both have the same basic functionality. They can both tether afaik, both have the same Android camera software, which is very comprehensive, data/email and web is what Android was born to do, audio and mp3 playback, again no worries and there are literaly thousands of games, free and not, on the market. Though in theory the Galaxy may be superior here for well written 3D stuff due to its hardware GPU.
 
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Was gonna say - is the power vr gpu of major benefit in terms of games, I'm thinking I can get things like Monkey island / emulators just playing about etc.


Would probably be looking at a 24 month deal so in 2 years will the HTC be outdated faster than the samsung?

I've read load of people say the samsungs suck a bit in terms of the customisations they make to android..
 
Was gonna say - is the power vr gpu of major benefit in terms of games, I'm thinking I can get things like Monkey island / emulators just playing about etc.


Would probably be looking at a 24 month deal so in 2 years will the HTC be outdated faster than the samsung?

I've read load of people say the samsungs suck a bit in terms of the customisations they make to android..

Well I have had HTC phones since the days of the original Orange SPV, so i'm certainly not too biased either way.

From my perspective, neither HTC's Sense nor Galaxy's "TouchWiz" home applications are particularly brilliant. I know some are obsessed with HTC's Sense, and for my old WinMo phone it was essential, but Android was designed from the ground up as a brilliant touchscreen OS.

I have a few friends with the Desire, and I recognise a few of the HTC widgets, a few are nice, but really nothing that you can't achieve through the market with either very cheap (like £1 cheap) widgets and free things.

I have had my Samsung for 4 days now, and it now has no sign of the Samsung TouchWiz stuff, I have LauncherPro installed, which was free from the market, and am using the Beautiful widgets.

Ultimately Android was designed to be customisable. So while Samsung have messed a bit with the colour schemes, manufacturer customisation was never really an issue for me.

WRT to the GPU. Well if you do a search for "Quake 2 Android" theres a site where someone has ported the quake 2 engine to Android, they have a side by side of it running on the Desire and the Galaxy, the difference is notable. However most games you will see on the market will either use a 2D API or be designed to run even on the much older Android devices too. It's really up to you. I dont think, for example, that the ScummVM program will make much use of the OpenGL capabilities of the PowerVR GPU in the Galaxy, as such its down to raw CPU processing power, which both devices are about the same for.

I have to say though, having compared the screen on my Galaxy to a friends Desire with a standard AMOLED, it's really something quite special, especially outdoors (i.e. you can actually see it! I could never see my Touch HDs LCD screen outside properly).

Again though, if you can have a play, I would.

EDIT: Oh yeah, the Samsung comes with the Swype keyboard as well as the standard Android keyboard, I *think* HTC provide their own too, but Swype is a bit special. Again google video will probably show you more than I can describe.

Edit 2: Also, any phone will be outdated in 24 months really, there will be something much better/faster, no doubt we'll be well into Android 3.0 by then and I have a feeling neither of these devices will see it (though undoubtedly they will be able to run it). But I don't think either will date faster than the other really. Perhaps, for all its plastic feel, the Samsung may weather slightly better as long as its kept in a case, purely because my experience of rubberised phones is that the rubber eventually perishes and flakes off. There isnt't really anything to go "wrong" on the Galaxy, it has one chunky hardware button and two "fake" soft buttons, the Desire has more things to physically go wrong with it. But really, I wouldn't worry too much about it, neither will be cutting edge in any way or form in 24 months, but neither will be obsolete imo.

Edit 3: (scatterbrain tonight it seems), one other minor difference is the lock screen. Both can use the standard Android "join the dots" lock screen ,or Samsung offer a rather nice screen which looks like a plate of glass over your background, which you sweep off the phone to unlock. HTC have their own screen I think where you pull a big bar down to the bottom. Both will be quicker but less secure than the standard Android screen. The Samsung one also creates a "jigsaw" puzzle piece if you have a new sms or email, and you can drag a piece into the empty slot if you wish to go straight there, or just unlock s usual. Again, Google video will show all :)
 
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Thanks a lot of the advice manic_man, Im looking to get a new phone and ive been fighting between these 2 aswell and I just keep changing my mind. Im gonna take a look at how LauncherPro Looks cause touch wiz is kinda gay to say the least. Thanks a lot.
 
Thanks for the post.

I just saw quake III on samsung and OMG. Un beleivable. Wow. The same page has Quake2 on both and you can definitely see the htc can't really do much with it while the samsung chews through it..

Any news on the motorolla droidx? is that likely to be a serious contender ? The HTC seems to have better deals, and generally better reviews, and general thumbs up, the Samsung seems a bit mixed, but the performance looks pretty decent. probably only 5-10% of my use of the phone will be calls, so all the other things are pretty important to me.

Any android phones with keyboard ?
 
I tried both and in the end opted for the Galaxy S for one reason...

The Screen......not only is it bigger, it is brighter and multi-touch is far better.
When you see the 2 side by side the difference is night & day.

Of course I aint saying the Desire is poor in anyway, its great but the Samsung's screen really does make the difference (to me anyway).

Android phones with keyboards are a bit of a premium currently, the Motorola Milestone is the only one worth mentioning although the Galaxy S is reported to have a 'Pro' version on the way.

The same reports also seem to indicate its US bound only though :(
 
There another thing to note...

The Samsung galaxy S is meant to have better & higher sound output through the headphone 3.5mm socket then the HTC desire.....
If you can find a mobile phone shop that has demo's of these two mobiles phone it maybe worthwhile taking a pair of headphones with you to test for this...

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I don't think there is any doubt now if you after a android phone its a Galaxy S, sense is nice on the Desire but I think I would get the Galaxy.

Brothers getting one and if its nice I be tempted to get one myself the HD recording has me 30 fps and it looks sweet.
 
I just got back from looking at the phone, I went Oxford circus and samsung rep was in one of the shops and she was really cool and showed me and my mates everything about the phone and I have to say its really good, its soo fast and responsive, and keyboard is just perfect and swype works really well, and its extremely easy to use it and so much faster. The phone its self is really slim and light. The one thing that I didnt like was the fact it didnt have flash but the picture were ok in low lighting, but all in all im going to get it now.
 
Was gonna say - is the power vr gpu of major benefit in terms of games, I'm thinking I can get things like Monkey island / emulators just playing about etc.


Would probably be looking at a 24 month deal so in 2 years will the HTC be outdated faster than the samsung?

I've read load of people say the samsungs suck a bit in terms of the customisations they make to android..

Would the games not need to be made for this powervr gpu?

Thus only specific games would be in the market for the galaxy? Or the ones on the market at the moment for many devices would see no speed increase as surely it could only use the cpu?

Sorry... just a bunch of questions more than anything! lol
 
I would say either of these will be well outdated in 2 years, think how phones have moved on from 2 years ago.

I have a Desire and me bro is getting a Galaxy s on Wednesday so i can get a idea more of what i think of it.
 
Would the games not need to be made for this powervr gpu?

Thus only specific games would be in the market for the galaxy? Or the ones on the market at the moment for many devices would see no speed increase as surely it could only use the cpu?

Sorry... just a bunch of questions more than anything! lol

As i understand it there is only 2 types of CPU and 2 types of GPU for android phones.

There may be features oin one or the other that aren't supported on both, but I assume that they both run everything and the PowerVR cpu is just faster.

Kind of like Nvidia and ATI gfx cards on the desktop ?
 
The powerVR will help with 3d stuff which i would assume gaming being the only real major thing you would see it from.

Battery life the Desire i got needs charging every day and i bet its the same for the Galaxy, just so much going on with these phones, the galaxy has advantages for me Super AMOLED, 4 inch screen , 8gb on board storage and 2 dedicated to apps and the ability to add sd card.

The Desire has slightly more ram 576 compared to 512 on the S, depends what you like as Sense is a nice addon for the Htc and a lot that have used the touchwiz on the S have disabled it and used Launcher Pro as its such a rip off from the Iphone.

I have no doubt the Desire will get updates earlier and is planned one in a few months, already the leaked rom is out which i am using on mine with no problems at all, but if i was you try both and see which grabs you.
 
My gf bought the Galaxy S yesterday and I am blown away by it, after owning a HTC magic a year ago things have definitely improved.

The screen is amazingly clear and the increased sized screen makes all the difference when browsing with my fat fingers. The multi touch is impressive and the phone in general is just extremely snappy straight out of the box.

We looked at the HTC Desire (she said it looked too blokey :D) I compared them in the short space of time I had in the shop and while I would agree the build quality is better on the desire the smaller screen size is a big disadvantage making the Galaxy S a winner.

I am even thinking about taking out a new contract early before my contract ends to get the Galaxy S now!
 
An acquaintance of mine has a Galaxy S, and I must say, the screen is absolutely amazing. My Desire pales in comparison :(
 
Had a play with the Desire and the Galaxy S this morning in my local TMob store. Desire is very nice indeed, I preferred the HTC Sense UI to the Samsung one but I have to agree, the Samsung screen really is quite incredible in comparison even though the Desire screen is stunning as well.

I'm torn between waiting for them to get a batch of iPhone 4's in later this month or just making a decision to come away from Apple completely and go the Android route with one of these. Desire topping my list so far for a few reasons, read a few reviews of the Galaxy that note it has a slightly flaky user inerface and can be quite clunky at times, although I didn't see any of that whilst playing around with the one I looked at this morning. Bizarrely enough, I'm not that keen on the Galaxy "Apple lookalike" UI despite me being a current iPhone owner. Would be nice to see something unique to the Samsung rather than a rip off of the Apple one. I presume that could be all tweaked until your hearts content with Android though.

All the recent issues with the iPhone 4 are making me more and more wary of plumping for that so I keep coming back to the Desire.

But then again, as I said - the Galaxy screen is oohhhh so nice!!. Gaarrgghhhh!!!!! - Really can't make my mind up!!. :p
 
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