Outrage at Headteacher's £200k pay package

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10609273.stm

Ignoring the facts of this case (his salary is £83k pa, the rest of his pay for last year came from bonuses and back-dated pay), why does this article cause so much consternation? Why are we prepared to see massive pay packages handed out to bankers in the City of London (irrespective of whether their bank fails or not) but not people playing key roles in education? If we're going to improve standards in schools then we need to make sure right from the start that good leadership is in place.
 
Yeah but 200k? Think of how much good that money could have done for the school? And for what its worth bankers bonuses stink and I detest them just as much.
 
Ok so give him half what he earned (100k) and spend the rest on the school itself? Believe me i've worked in schools, and still do in a roundabout way because of my job now, you can't have enough facilities/equipment in a school.

I wonder how much the staff working under him earnt, and whether they should have shared in the success as a result of the school turning itself around.
 
knip said:
Yeah but 200k? Think of how much good that money could have done for the school? And for what its worth bankers bonuses stink and I detest them just as much.
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And from the facts we are given, it seems that the teacher in question has earnt every penny.

Good on him, he's shown he's good at his job, and been rewarded accordingly.

Lets take the usual tilt to football players and their wages. Do yuo honestly think that theyre £20,000 a week is well earnt compared to this head teachers £200,000?

Because I certainly dont. Im MORE than happy to see a teacher get paid for doing a good job, than sports people / bankers etc getting paid for doing nothing worthwhile.
 
He runs a primary school not a multi-million business with hundreds of employees. You don’t need fantastic leadership skills to run a school and so it’s a huge waste of public money. Another sign of what is wrong with this country, giving out money for old rope. Hopefully some more of this financial madness will be put right by our new government.
 
For the record, footballers wages are despicable, and they should be capped at something reasonable and the rest given to charity. (not that it'll ever happen)

I just think that in a system that's really struggling and paying those further down the chain crap wages, when they keep the school going just as much as the man in charge, there needs to be a bit more equality. One man hasn't fixed that school, him and the team of staff around him have.
 
frankly i think he deserves it, a lot of it was back dated pay, and working overtime, turned the school around and did a dam fine job.

I think it's pretty disgusting in the country, that media / people like to bash the people who are successful, and good at what they do.
 
I think it's pretty disgusting in the country, that media / people like to bash the people who are successful, and good at what they do.
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Here here! It's all pure jealously - "I'm on a carp wage therefore everyone else should be as well". It's almost like the UK has an aversion to success.
 
scorza said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10609273.stm

Ignoring the facts of this case (his salary is £83k pa, the rest of his pay for last year came from bonuses and back-dated pay), why does this article cause so much consternation? Why are we prepared to see massive pay packages handed out to bankers in the City of London (irrespective of whether their bank fails or not) but not people playing key roles in education? If we're going to improve standards in schools then we need to make sure right from the start that good leadership is in place.
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Because one is funded by taxation (a forced removal of property with no alternative), and the others aren't?

If schools were run as businesses, responsible for their own budgets paid for by parental choice (even if partially centrally funded by, for example, a voucher system), there would be much less aggression towards paying successful people good money. As it is the system involves taking money by force, distributing places without choice and no real input or chance for change from the customers (whether you class children or parents as the customers, they have very little means of bringing about change). There is no scope for excellence, no scope for change and no scope for a head teacher to make a real difference to teaching that would justify a high salary if successful, because everything is controlled by central diktat.

I also can't help noticing that you do direct vitriol at those higher paid in private industry on a fairly regular basis. You've even advocated that they shouldn't have employment rights in the past...
 
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I personally think that wages are all out of whack anyway. Crucial and vitally important careers involving massive risks, like doctors, nurses, firefighters, armed forces personnel, police and so on seem to not have parity with the amounts that some teachers, bankers, shop managers etc get.

I've worked within the education sector for a few decades now and there are some great teachers and headteachers who are being paid large wages, there are also some absolutely dreadful teachers and headteachers who are being paid large wages. In both cases they were getting more than many of the careers mentioned above.
 
WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT 200K? SERIOUSLY, IT'S SMOKE AND MIRRORS.

THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL BANKING CARTEL JUST STOLE BILLIONS! BUT OH NO, LET'S START A WITCH HUNT FOR A TEACHERS 200K.

BROKEN BRITAIN CONTINUES IT'S WILLFULL FALL INTO THE TABLOID ABYSS.
 
The entire education sector needs a massive pay overhaul, the work and responsibility my mrs has irritates me considering the lack of money she earns and I'm sure it's the same everywhere else in this sector :(
 
The kids wont mind him getting paid 200k if they go on from what is now a good school and get a decent life from it.
 
Citizen420 said:
WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT 200K? SERIOUSLY, IT'S SMOKE AND MIRRORS.

THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL BANKING CARTEL JUST STOLE BILLIONS! BUT OH NO, LET'S START A WITCH HUNT FOR A TEACHERS 200K.

BROKEN BRITAIN CONTINUES IT'S WILLFULL FALL INTO THE TABLOID ABYSS.
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Can I have some crack too?
 
simulatorman said:
He runs a primary school not a multi-million business with hundreds of employees. You don’t need fantastic leadership skills to run a school and so it’s a huge waste of public money. Another sign of what is wrong with this country, giving out money for old rope. Hopefully some more of this financial madness will be put right by our new government.
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yep.
 
Its a complete witch hunt, anyone that earns above £40k is going to be ridiculed by the media soon.
 
nIckEl101 said:
frankly i think he deserves it, a lot of it was back dated pay, and working overtime, turned the school around and did a dam fine job.

I think it's pretty disgusting in the country, that media / people like to bash the people who are successful, and good at what they do.
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I don't agree with any CEO earning the figures they do but 200k for a primary school seems ridiculous (just for the number of staff and size of budget).

The whole superstar CEO thing is a myth, it makes shareholders feel better but more often then not they don't add value and demoralise the workforce as yet another space cadet is parachuted in.

I see it everywhere:
want a blockbuster film - hire a big star leading man
want a league winning football team - hire a big star striker
want to increase share price - hire a big star CEO from the city

I'm not saying it doesn't always work, but when it does it's usually a coincidence or smoke and mirrors. Lasting success doesn't come from super stars, it comes from hard work and quality throughout the organisation.

At the end of the day though if the shareholders of a private company want to throw their profits away on a short term share price gain that's their business - literally.

Why the public sector blindly follow them in this 'accepted business practise' though is a mystery, are we really all that stupid?
 
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