Outrage at Headteacher's £200k pay package

For the record, footballers wages are despicable, and they should be capped at something reasonable and the rest given to charity. (not that it'll ever happen)
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Are any of you actually aware of how few a number of players as a %age earn these obsene salaries? There are also examples of high earning players donating salaries to charity - Bergkamp probably being the most famous example. There are a lot of footballers in the UK who earn less than I do (and I don't earn near 100k before anyone asks)

And that head teacher is loreal imo
 
As the government has put a 2 year freeze on public sector pay it will be interesting to see how teachers will show their dedication to the kids education by going on strike the first chance they get. That will be straight after their forthcoming long summer holiday of course.

Taking into account that some other public sector workers in health & police for e.g. cannot go on strike then where is the justice in their demand for a 10% increase taking into account that the government is unlikely to give in.
What would happen if they did give in as regards to nurses etc having no such easy route to get what they want.
Teachers never stop whingeing about how hard they work & that when they go home they still have work to do, well considering they work less hours than anyone else in the entire country added up over a given year they should count their selves lucky.

Have you seen how hard junior doctors work in hospitals recently? scurrying around from one ward to another often working a 70hr week & with just 4 weeks holiday to look forward to?
Teachers should count themselves lucky considering that for every good one there's hundreds who aren't but still get paid the same.

We know two teachers who are on more or less permanent sick leave because of stress :rolleyes: Who doesn't get stressed at work some times?
meanwhile one of them has started up a little enterprise of escorting trips to India while still getting his teachers pay :mad:
 
Given the breakdown of the payments it makes sense and seems that he earned it. Well done to him imo.

Anyone moaning about the overall figure needs to calm down and look at the facts, not just the headline figure
 
izzy eckerslike said:
We know two teachers who are on more or less permanent sick leave because of stress :rolleyes:
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Hehe, I know a teacher who has worked less than 8 days in the last 12 months. She is off "ill" (she isnt) , when her pay gets reduced, she returns to work for the required number of days to get her pay back up and then she "relapses" and is off "ill" again.

I also knew another teacher who got a head of maths position at a school I was involved with at the time, he got the job, did the first day and then went off "ill", remained "ill" for the better part of the year picking up his wages of course and then left and moved to another school. In total he only worked 3 days at the school but got essentially a years pay.

Those are by no means indicative of the whole and the same almost certainly goes on in other professions, but it does highlight the difficulties in simply sacking people these days.
 
Moses99p said:
Well with the 11+ system, or anything like that, there will always be people who don't get through, when they could do well if they did (obvs it's not a pass mark, you just have to be in the top x [x being the size of the intake for the academic year in question]). Isn't it a good idea to have ~centres of excellence~, or whatnot, where the best kids from each year can go and learn in an environment which stretches them adequately? It'd be crazy to turn Oxford into a mixed ability institution, with a cross section of abilities going there, wouldn't it?
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I don't disagree with performance-based streamlining, but this can also be done in schools with sets in different subjects. Most secondary schools do this anyway.

My main point there was that decisions shouldn't be made at that age. Children just haven't developed fully enough by that point.
 
D1ngd0ng said:
Are any of you actually aware of how few a number of players as a %age earn these obsene salaries? There are also examples of high earning players donating salaries to charity - Bergkamp probably being the most famous example. There are a lot of footballers in the UK who earn less than I do (and I don't earn near 100k before anyone asks)

And that head teacher is loreal imo
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lol at trying to justify footballer wages.
 
If people read the BBC article correctly, they would see that he is not on 200k a year.

The article states that his pay is £82,714 - thats for doing his job at he School he is employed at.

He was also paid £51,957 which was back-dated pay for 2008/09 - for work on the City Challenge programme introduced by Labour to tackle underachievement in disadvantaged areas.

Lastly he was paid £10,000 in overtime for 2009-10, and a further £9,317 for overtime in 2008/09.

Now I will agree his total earnings last year were over 200k, however it appears that he has in effect two jobs, 1) Headteacher 2) Working for the City Challenge Programme.

The extra £19.317 is for overtime earned.

He hasn't had any money for nothing - it appears that he has put the hours in and reaped the rewards - how he finds the hours in the day I don't know.


Couple of issues:-

1) The Challenge Programme, was it another Labour funded Quango, in which case it should be scrapped.

2) 19k in overtime - hmm someone should be looking at that figure and working out why its come to that much.
 
Yes but I have lost count of how many other head lines are screaming from the roof tops the '£200k' figure - sure enough some people have only seen that and aren't aware of the full break down.
 
Andy90 said:
Couple of issues:-

1) The Challenge Programme, was it another Labour funded Quango, in which case it should be scrapped.

2) 19k in overtime - hmm someone should be looking at that figure and working out why its come to that much.
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With regards to 2, I am amazed that anyone on a salary of £80k actually gets overtime.
 
izzy eckerslike said:
We know two teachers who are on more or less permanent sick leave because of stress :rolleyes: Who doesn't get stressed at work some times?
meanwhile one of them has started up a little enterprise of escorting trips to India while still getting his teachers pay :mad:
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Well bloody report them rather than base your attitude to all members of the teaching profession on them.
 
Please expand on that all encompasing 'lol' dirtydog: at what point was I trying to justify footballers wages? How do you define footballers wages? Premier league only? What about the other 96 professional clubs in England alone that hire footballers on a fulltime basis?

This is an old article but provides some good infomation on wages by age group and league

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-a-premiership-footballer-in-2006-473659.html

And for the record they are paid way to much in my opinion but when you are using NFL, NBA and MLB as the model then footballers are paid a pittance.
 
Andy90 said:
He hasn't had any money for nothing - it appears that he has put the hours in and reaped the rewards - how he finds the hours in the day I don't know.
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my mum is a head. she gets to school at 8am and leaves after 6pm , she then has more work to do at home which is the only place she is safe from the constant stream of questions from staff/parents/kids/council/social services and more

she ends up in bed by 9 and has no social life at all during the week because she doesnt have the time or energy

the comments such as ''easy job'' are just downright insulting. go try it for a week and i know you will change your mind. even after working towards it for 20 odd years my mum often thinks it just isnt worth it but she wont leave because she loves the school and kids too much. its more than just teaching and managing . she has to be involved with literally everything to do with the school.

the guy getting 'slated' on the news is doing a great job and its sickening to see him hounded about it
 
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Sounds to me like £200K is an attention grabbing headline, it's not like it's his basic pay.

He's turned around a failing inner-city school to one classed as "outstanding". Sounds like he's doing a damn fine job to me! :cool:

dirtydog said:
Anyone else see the black chav female on the news saying how he deserves £200k 'and he's getting it' :)
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Yep, all the parents at the school they interviewed on the BBC at 1 said they were fine with it, and that he deserves it. And the parents, ahem, weren't exactly the most affluent people ever.

Yet there's some jealous union **** bleating on about it. :rolleyes: @ Unions.
 
Westyfield2 said:
Yep, all the parents at the school they interviewed on the BBC at 1 said they were fine with it, and that he deserves it. And the parents, ahem, weren't exactly the most affluent people ever.
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I got the impression they were the sort who agree with screwing as much money out of the taxpayer as possible, which they doubtless do themselves :)
 
izzy eckerslike said:
Well that's the private sector & hence it doesn't come out of our tax
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So public sector workers don't deserve to earn a good wage for a hard job?

How about keeping the banks afloat, that came out of our tax money? Do you support the massive pay packets bankers still get even though they should be locked up with big bubba and his slippery fists?
 
simulatorman said:
He runs a primary school not a multi-million business with hundreds of employees. You don’t need fantastic leadership skills to run a school and so it’s a huge waste of public money. Another sign of what is wrong with this country, giving out money for old rope. Hopefully some more of this financial madness will be put right by our new government.
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You got kids?
 
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