Do you rotate your tyres?

Gaijin said:
4WD for the lack of tyre rotating win.
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I have to change 2 at a time because it only had 2 new tyres when I bought it :(

So I put the new ones on the front and move the old ones to the back, but I'm not the one who physically changes them so I have no idea whether they've been swapped to the other side.
 
mjt said:
I have to change 2 at a time because it only had 2 new tyres when I bought it :(

So I put the new ones on the front and move the old ones to the back, but I'm not the one who physically changes them so I have no idea whether they've been swapped to the other side.
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Thats pretty rubbish as you'll have to replace all 4 to get even again.

Am I wrong in thinking that the fronts should wear slightly quicker on a 4WD car due to steering and loading on braking?
 
Gaijin said:
Thats pretty rubbish as you'll have to replace all 4 to get even again.

Am I wrong in thinking that the fronts should wear slightly quicker on a 4WD car due to steering and loading on braking?
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All 4 of mine die at the same horribly fast rate.
 
Gaijin said:
Thats pretty rubbish as you'll have to replace all 4 to get even again.

Am I wrong in thinking that the fronts should wear slightly quicker on a 4WD car due to steering and loading on braking?
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It doesn't bother me that they're not even. It's not a problem on Haldex systems, either.

The fronts will wear quicker on my car as it's very FWD-biased and the diesel lump weighs as much as an elephant :p
 
Yep I do. Usually when the fronts have 3mm ish. That 3mm seems to last ages on the rear.

(Yes I know what vicki butler henderson says about new tyres going on the back but it works for me)
 
So if my fronts have done 10k and are now down to 3mm, at what point were my rears the worse tyre?

The 3mm rears aren't on for long, i'm usually looking to replace all 4 at that stage, probably within a month or two.
 
I don't bother, rears seem to last twice as long as the fronts so every second change I'll be replacing all 4.

Benefit to this also is that I replaced Michelin Pilot Sport 2s with Eagle F1 Asymmetrics, which IMO are gash (for what I want from a tyre), if I'd have replaced all 4 with them as I might've done I'd be well cheesed off that I'd have to put up with them longer than necessary.
 
No, firstly rears are wider and secondly I run a bit of - camber on the rear, so tyres wear inside edge a bit quicker. To put them onto the front would cause some issues with handling.
 
I just get my alignment checked at every annual service so don't have to bother rotating them, If I was only replacing 2 for some reason (I normally replace in sets) id put the new ones on the back as I don't have to worry about under-steer, my front wheels are the drive wheels and they do most of the braking though so I usually replace them at the same time
 
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Gaijin said:
Thats pretty rubbish as you'll have to replace all 4 to get even again.

Am I wrong in thinking that the fronts should wear slightly quicker on a 4WD car due to steering and loading on braking?
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Depends on the default centre diff split, and the type of driving. My gen 4 quattro has a 50/50 split so the fronts wear quicker due to braking and turning - I rotate them every 5-6k to even them out as I like to keep a matched set. A rearward bias (e.g. the B7 S4 and RS4 has a 40/60 split) will go some way to balancing out the wear, as will doing less hard braking and cornering relative to acceleration.
 
Must admit I've never bothered rotating tyres, I just replace them when they need to be. I've only ever noticed a lack of traction with worn tyres in the wet as well.
 
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