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AMD Phenom II X6 V's Intel I7 - What to go for.

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why all the negative vibes against AMD,im new here and it seems to happen a lot.

AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1055T 2.80GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £157.44

OCZ Gold 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (OCZ3G1600LV4GK) £88.11

Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3 MA770 (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard £72.99

Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2 CPU Cooler (Socket 939 / AM2 / AM3 / 775 / 1156 / 1366) Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2 CPU Cooler (Socket 939 / AM2 / AM3 / 775 / 1156 / 1366) £16.99

Sub Total : £285.56

Shipping : £9.50
VAT : £51.64
Total : £346.70

£110.88 cheaper
 
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pazza said:
why all the negative vibes against AMD,im new here and it seems to happen a lot.

AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1055T 2.80GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £157.44

OCZ Gold 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (OCZ3G1600LV4GK) £88.11

Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3 MA770 (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard £72.99

Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2 CPU Cooler (Socket 939 / AM2 / AM3 / 775 / 1156 / 1366) Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2 CPU Cooler (Socket 939 / AM2 / AM3 / 775 / 1156 / 1366) £16.99

Sub Total : £285.56

Shipping : £9.50
VAT : £51.64
Total : £346.70

£110.88 cheaper
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Its also slower and has 2 GB less ram

What's your point? You can get a slower system and less ram for less money?

No **** Sherlock
 
because 2gb of ram is going to make such a difference right? lets see some benchmarks then?


easy you will never be capable of giving a well reasoned answer on anything to do with pc hardware. Or for that matter anything you have ever spoken about on ocuk. you have one way of thinking and one only - it has the be the fastest in a given field or it wont be considered.


Unfortunately after all the years you still haven't learned that other people have other priorities. So what if the intel machine is only £70 more expensive - most people wouldn't care. Sugar coating the differences in performance doesnt help, either. But what really grates is the way you come down on people just because they dont agree with you. You speak to them like ****, easyrider, and frankly I'm amazed you've got away with it for so long.
 
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If he's buying an AMD 6 core he'd be better off getting a more modern 890FX/GX motherboard which has been specifically built for them rather than an older AMD 770 chipset, especially if he plans to overclock.
 
mmj_uk said:
If he's buying an AMD 6 core he'd be better off getting a more modern 890FX/GX motherboard which has been specifically built for them rather than an older AMD 770 chipset, especially if he plans to overclock.
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Indeed.

AMD people will suggest anything to get the price down and prove a non existent point.

Even specifying old dead chipsets :p
 
easyrider said:
Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping (SLBEJ) 2.66GHz (Nehalem) (Socket LGA1366) - OEM £199.74
(£169.99) £199.74
(£169.99)
Asus P6T Deluxe OC Palm Edition Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard Asus P6T Deluxe OC Palm Edition Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard £140.99
(£119.99) £140.99
(£119.99)
OCZ Gold 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 Low-Voltage Triple Channel (OCZ3G1333LV6GK) OCZ Gold 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 Low-Voltage Triple Channel (OCZ3G1333LV6GK) £99.86
(£84.99) £99.86
(£84.99)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2 CPU Cooler (Socket 939 / AM2 / AM3 / 775 / 1156 / 1366) Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2 CPU Cooler (Socket 939 / AM2 / AM3 / 775 / 1156 / 1366) £16.99
(£14.46) £16.99
(£14.46)
Sub Total : £389.43

£457.58

Thats just £57.58 more so I have no idea where you get £133.91 from But I guess it exists in Wayne's World :D


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easyrider said:
You can get the best for less than you think

£69.96 more than the first system you suggested.

Given that you get 2 GB more ram and its triple channel ( 4GB is low by todays standards and win7 64bit being the choice OS for most)

I know which system I would pick

Intel Core i7 930 2.80GHz (Bloomfield) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail £229.11
(£194.99) £229.11
(£194.99)
Asus P6T Deluxe OC Palm Edition Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard Asus P6T Deluxe OC Palm Edition Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard £140.99
(£119.99) £140.99
(£119.99)
OCZ Gold 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 Low-Voltage Triple Channel (OCZ3G1333LV6GK) OCZ Gold 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 Low-Voltage Triple Channel (OCZ3G1333LV6GK) £99.86
(£84.99) £99.86
(£84.99)
Sub Total : £399.97

£469.96


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cheaper and more ram.

NEXT, :p:D
 
james.miller said:
because 2gb of ram is going to make such a difference right? lets see some benchmarks then?


easy you will never be capable of giving a well reasoned answer on anything to do with pc hardware. Or for that matter anything you have ever spoken about on ocuk. you have one way of thinking and one only - it has the be the fastest in a given field or it wont be considered.


Unfortunately after all the years you still haven't learned that other people have other priorities. So what if the intel machine is only £70 more expensive - most people wouldn't care. Sugar coating the differences in performance doesnt help, either. But what really grates is the way you come down on people just because they dont agree with you. You speak to them like ****, easyrider, and frankly I'm amazed you've got away with it for so long.
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The OP wants the best correct advice. Not romantic gestures supported for nothing more than brand loyalty.

Someone has just specced and old chipset for an X6

Is this good advice? Is this wise to spend 72.99 on an already out of date chipset?

No...I just highlighted it. Its wrong for poeple to waste their money.

To many people post GUFF and they post it willy nilly.

Now they are welcome to suggest why buying an old chipset for a modern day x6 is a good idea....But we all know its not.

Fact is people want the fastest hardware for their money.

The OP wants to Encode and Video edit.

i7 is 57 quid more expensive for more performance.

Thats the bottom line

Its not about agreeing with me..Its not personal.

Its simple the facts. I have no attachment to PC hardware,

But there are good choices and bad choices.
 
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-278-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1782

£72 inc vat if mATX isnt an issue.

If people could cut the fanboy crap and stick to the facts it would help massively.

you set a price, you price up the gear from both camps, you buy the most suitable gear based on price/performance. it should make no difference who manufactures it and I guess now you lot will tell me it makes no difference to you, but it clearly does to some people.

Indeed.

AMD people will suggest anything to get the price down and prove a non existent point.

Even specifying old dead chipsets
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that's a bit like trying to justify an argument by saying "my process was only £100 so there" when you know damn well you cant buy them new for the price. Irrelevant nonsense.

easyrider said:
The OP wants the best correct advice. Not romantic gestures supported for nothing more than brand loyalty.

Someone has just specced and old chipset for an X6

Is this good advice? Is this wise to spend 72.99 on an already out of date chipset?
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It depends if there are features you cant live without that are on new boards. but regarding that recommendation in specific, the gigabyte 770 was a poor choice. Gareth linked to an 880 atx board than was £10 more expensive, or there is the 880 aMTX board as i mentioned which only lacks a second pci-e slot - if that's a problem.


There is an amount of snobbery that is undeniable, easyrider. although that 770 isnt really suitable for a hexcore, the succeeding chipsets are all much of a muchness - as long as it's AM3 then i dont see what the issue is. From all the boards i looked at performance was pretty much even right acros the board (no pun intented). the ONLY reason i went with the asus m4a89gtd pro was that it had everything bar wireless thrown in which is exactly what i wanted - sata6gb, usb3, onboard gpu, tonnes of connectivity. everything. But performance? no i wouldn't have bought this board if i purely wanted performance. tbh just about any AM3 board would have done.
 
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The OP wants to Encode and Video edit.

i7 is 57 quid more expensive for more performance.
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which isnt backed up by benchmarks especially ones performed on these forums even on reviews its clear to see a x6 is faster than a 930 or as fast at encoding.

your the one giving guff advice yet im the one who gets banned for trolling when i have evidence to back up my claims there is definetly an intel conspiracy around here when anyone who backs up claims a x6 is faster with hard evidence they get a ban
 
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arknor said:
your the one giving guff advice yet im the one who gets banned for trolling when i have evidence to back up my claims there is definetly an intel conspiracy around here when anyone who backs up claims a x6 is faster with hard evidence they get a ban
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tbh mate i think the mod's and theses forums are one sided. it's been like this for years. afew times they deleted my posts just because i was pointing things out about amd.

i guess it's all down to what the person prefers
 
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i would have gladly taken part but i dont have a hex so my results would have been of little use, really. not unless people want quad core result to compare.
 
easyrider said:
I wouldn't bother

The benchmark was flawed ...as in it wouldn't fully utilise all cores 100%
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it got pretty close though when we used the newer exe and i did say handbrake was better but you never posted the settings we should choose like you said you would.
 
Hmmm, this thread has turned into a bit of a shambles. Unfortunately, I have stumbled upon it a little too late. I'm inclined to close this thread. However, the discussion about the performance to cost ratio with regards to the AMD Phenom II X6 and the Intel Core i7 is interesting and I don't think it should be stopped.

Due to the way the discussion in this thread has progressed though, I don't think DisrupTor75 (the original thread starter) or anyone else is going to benefit much further from anything else which is posted in this thread. So, I think I'm going to close this thread and possibly also start a new one regarding the following processors.

  • AMD Phenom II X6
  • Intel Core i7
If a new thread does go ahead, it will be heavily moderated.
 
james.miller said:
it is and that's the problem. Not enough people looking at gear logically and too many people recommend gear simply because they own it. it makes these forums very difficult to read for somebody just trying to get an honest answer.
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This is exactly my point.

Big Wayne was stating that i7 was 130 odd quid more expensive than the X6

He asked is it worth the premium.

I replied with a i7 spec that was just 57 quid more expensve than X6.

Now £57 for 2 GB more triple channel ram SLI/Xfire support and speed both in gaming and encoding is worth it in my view.

Not because I own it. But because it makes sense.
 
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