I thought OcUK only really stocked good quality products.........

ATIorNvidia · 18 Jul 2010 at 15:54

Higadeb said:
I'm not saying it is close to the Corsair quality wise. I'm just saying that the 650W or 750W Swift MAY deliver the same as the 400W Corsair and so would provide a cheaper alternative.
I'm not saying anything definitive as I haven't had experience with either PSU.
And no, you don't need extensive testing. But it is not possible that a higher rater generic PSU can be on a par with a lower rated branded one?

It is possible, but what about other factors?, for exmaple, what if the Swift has dangerous ripple levels at loads above 300w? That wouldn't be too good for your components. The CX400 for example is proven and tested and well in spec, I'd much rather spend the extra £15.

Saint Jimmy · 18 Jul 2010 at 15:56

I think this kind of PSU would be perfect for a simple build. I had a build with something very similar.

iNPUt · 18 Jul 2010 at 15:58

I am waiting for it:

But seriously its not a bad idea, if want to build people very cheap machines, these are perfect. Would prob go with the corsair cx tho if I wanted to to a mild overclock on budget parts.

Higadeb · 18 Jul 2010 at 15:59

ATIorNvidia said:
It is possible, but what about other factors?, for exmaple, what the the Swift has dangerous ripple levels at loads above 300w? That wouldn't be too good for your components. The CX400 for example is proven and tested and well in spec, I'd much rather spend the extra £15.

I agree. I too would go for the Corsair.
But not everyone is you or I. Also, yes what if it does have dangerous levels? That would be bad. But what if it didn't? The reviews I've read on WinPower PSU's have been fully complimentary of the reliability and performance should you want a PSU without Active PFC.

I hope you understand I am by no means saying that these things are great and you should use them to power your beast of a rig. I'm just saying that for an office PC or a lower spec. web surfing machine these would be perfectly acceptable as a PSU.

Higadeb · 18 Jul 2010 at 16:01

iNPUt said:
I am waiting for it:

But seriously its not a bad idea, if want to build people very cheap machines, these are perfect. Would prob go with the corsair cx tho if I wanted to to a mild overclock on budget parts.

You brave man! What GPU are you putting with it? I personally wouldn't have gone above an i5 on a Swift. And defo. not an overclocked i7!
Still, it's your choice! I wish you and your PC the best of luck

HighlandeR · 18 Jul 2010 at 16:03

Saw this one coming

930 @ 4.2ghz with 750 ocuk p/s

wonder if it would work indeed

Anyhow im all for ocuk to bring in these cheaper alternatives, we need them to expand a lot more or as Ocuk are doing picking the right parts to sell cos maybe outta half the p/s £8-12 units out there are naff so maybe some £14-16 units are better/reliable etc.

Just need this to be the same across the board, I feel ocuk been missing out on a lot of ££ compared to others cos in todays recession who isnt building a cheap quadcore pc for there friends or family or making it as there business

ATIorNvidia · 18 Jul 2010 at 16:17

Higadeb said:
I agree. I too would go for the Corsair.
But not everyone is you or I. Also, yes what if it does have dangerous levels? That would be bad. But what if it didn't? The reviews I've read on WinPower PSU's have been fully complimentary of the reliability and performance should you want a PSU without Active PFC.

Link to the reviews? Do they actually test properly?

mrtckane · 18 Jul 2010 at 16:19

I'd like to thank the people who organised the 74 of the same post about these power supplies.

Although i'm in no way a "n00b" to building computers but i am new to this forum.

Thanks to this post i already know who the knobs are.

Thanks!

iNPUt · 18 Jul 2010 at 16:20

Higadeb said:
You brave man! What GPU are you putting with it? I personally wouldn't have gone above an i5 on a Swift. And defo. not an overclocked i7!
Still, it's your choice! I wish you and your PC the best of luck

I was taking the ****. Waiting for my bundle isn't working.

scrlk · 18 Jul 2010 at 16:54

This reminds me of the days when OcUK used to stock the Hiper (Explosive) modular 580W and Q-Tec (TNT in a metal box) PSU's.

Higadeb · 18 Jul 2010 at 17:12

ATIorNvidia said:
Link to the reviews? Do they actually test properly?

Read back a few pages. I linked to them earlier. It may not be the exact same PSU though, can't tell. But it is made by the same company.

iNPUt said:
I was taking the ****. Waiting for my bundle isn't working.

*wipes sweat from forehead

Vinni3 @H|H said:
This reminds me of the days when OcUK used to stock the Hiper (Explosive) modular 580W and Q-Tec (TNT in a metal box) PSU's.

Don't talk about Hipers that way! They aren't all bad! I've used a beloved 580W Type R modular for 4 years without any issues... aren't I the lucky one!

86JR · 18 Jul 2010 at 17:40

Rroff said:
There seems to have been something of an armistice over the last couple of days (not sure if its related to the gibbo thing) - I've noticed a few people who were formerly perma'd given a last chance.

Wrong.

ATIorNvidia · 18 Jul 2010 at 17:42

Higadeb said:
Read back a few pages. I linked to them earlier. It may not be the exact same PSU though, can't tell. But it is made by the same company.

That review is garbage, all they're doing is measuring load voltage, effiency, temps and noise level, did you not read the article on hardwaresecrets that someone posted a few pages back?

Also I explained a few pages back (or was it a different thread about these PSU's? I'm not sure) that HEC is an OEM, they make PSU's for other companies, if Winpower goes to them and asks them do make a **** PSU, they will make it. One decent unit doesn't mean they are all decent units. Do you HONESTLY think that a 750w PSU priced at £28.99 would be even remotely decent, why do you think it is priced so cheap? After all, they are a company and theyre there to make money, surely if the PSU had two legs to stand on, it wouldn't be dirt cheap.

It's fine if you're gonna only be drawing about 150w from the 750w, but you are not gonna pull anywhere near 750W from that unit without it burning.

Higadeb · 18 Jul 2010 at 18:04

ATIorNvidia said:
It's fine if you're gonna only be drawing about 150w from the 750w, but you are not gonna pull anywhere near 750W from that unit without it burning.

Exactly, so it's fine for a basic office or web surfing machine, which is what I've been trying to say all along!
If you need 750W chances are you have a beastly expensive machine and can afford the required PSU. My PC (see CPU-Z link in sig) draws 550W under full load and the PC's at the library only use ~200W. Who do you think these lines of PSU is aimed at?

thingemajib · 18 Jul 2010 at 18:23

mrtckane said:
I'd like to thank the people who organised the 74 of the same post about these power supplies.

Although i'm in no way a "n00b" to building computers but i am new to this forum.

Thanks to this post i already know who the knobs are.

Thanks!

*like*

even if i fall into the category of knob

ATIorNvidia · 18 Jul 2010 at 18:28

Higadeb said:
Exactly, so it's fine for a basic office or web surfing machine, which is what I've been trying to say all along!
If you need 750W chances are you have a beastly expensive machine and can afford the required PSU. My PC (see CPU-Z link in sig) draws 550W under full load and the PC's at the library only use ~200W. Who do you think these lines of PSU is aimed at?

And I still disagree because its much more logical to get a lower wattage decent quality unit, there's no need to cheap-out so much to the point where you will only spend £15 on a PSU, thats ridiculous. The effeciency of the better branded ones far make up for it, anyway.

Higadeb · 18 Jul 2010 at 18:46

ATIorNvidia said:
And I still disagree because its much more logical to get a lower wattage decent quality unit, there's no need to cheap-out so much to the point where you will only spend £15 on a PSU, thats ridiculous. The effeciency of the better branded ones far make up for it, anyway.

Right ok. Let me try a different angle.
Think of a school. Some schools teach classes of 50+ people and most schools have a library with computers, each teaching room has a computer of some kind for teachers, all the admin people use computers, there are a few more dotted around in arts + DT rooms, even more in music rooms for music tek and say there are two computer labs for teaching ICT.
All together that easily makes 200+ machines. So is the school more concerned about the fact that their PC's are using generic brand PSU's which still work for the required machines or would they be more concerned by the fact that they can't afford all the PC's required as it now stretches out of their tight budget?
You tell me.
And no, the efficiency increase will save pennies over a long period of time due to the low power requirements of the machines we're talking about here.

ATIorNvidia · 18 Jul 2010 at 19:01

Higadeb said:
Right ok. Let me try a different angle.
Think of a school. Some schools teach classes of 50+ people and most schools have a library with computers, each teaching room has a computer of some kind for teachers, all the admin people use computers, there are a few more dotted around in arts + DT rooms, even more in music rooms for music tek and say there are two computer labs for teaching ICT.
All together that easily makes 200+ machines. So is the school more concerned about the fact that their PC's are using generic brand PSU's which still work for the required machines or would they be more concerned by the fact that they can't afford all the PC's required as it now stretches out of their tight budget?
You tell me.
And no, the efficiency increase will save pennies over a long period of time due to the low power requirements of the machines we're talking about here.

There is no need to 'try' a different angle, I am not stupid.

I disagree with you. If you're already cheaping out on a PSU by spending like £20, you might aswell go even cheaper and go ahead and buy a £5-10 PSU, it works for a low power PC doesn't it?

pastymuncher · 18 Jul 2010 at 19:06

The big problem is this:-

Everyday we get people posting on here about psu requirements, usually for a mid to high spec rig and if they can get away with a psu that comes in a cheapo case. We try to steer them in the right direction and point them to a decent psu but there are probably quite a few who ignore the advice given and go and buy a cheap generic unit anyway. Usually these same people end up posting due to their new build pc having problems and 99% of the time it's due to the cheap and nasty psu. They then have to go out and replace it with a decent one which is what they should have done in the first place. For every person that post's on this forum for advice their will be many more that are not forum members and know very little about a pc's power requirements who will end up buying these cheap psu's for a mid to high spec rig and will end up with problems. While Winpower is probably the best of the cheap unit's there is no way i would have one in any pc of mine, no matter how low end it is.

Higadeb · 18 Jul 2010 at 19:23

ATIorNvidia said:
There is no need to 'try' a different angle, I am not stupid.

I disagree with you. If you're already cheaping out on a PSU by spending like £20, you might aswell go even cheaper and go ahead and buy a £5-10 PSU, it works for a low power PC doesn't it?

Yes, sorry. Bad word choice there. I didn't mean to imply you were stupid in any sense.
And yes, you would go out and buy the cheapest PSU which managed to do the job. If there was a £5-10 PSU which did the job then go for it. The only issue is if the £5-10 PSU really will work as the only PSU I found in that price range was rated 300W so who knows what it actually puts out. I doubt it would power a 200/250W school machine