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Could someone please tell me how good their gtx 470 is with the latest drivers?

opethdisciple

opethdisciple

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Hi Guys,

Im in two minds at the moments which card to buy.

Iv bored some people silly on here with my incessant asking of questions, so I applogies for yet another one.

But as you can imagine, I would like to cover all the bases before spending a few hundred £££ on a gpu, im gona keep for the next 2-3 years.

I cant determine how good the gtx 470 is.

I initailly excluded it, becuase of poor reviews, but then someone brought to my attention that the GTX 470 with the latest Nvidia drivers 258.96 is vastly better than when it was first released.

Any one care to share any benchmarks of their card here on the forum?

Also some people, mention that the GTX 470 has higher minimums than the 5870, which helps with providing a better level of enjoyment over the 5870??

Is the GTX 470 closer to the 5870 or the 5850?

I game at 1920x1200 resolution

Thanks
 
i can give u 3dmark vantage with latest drivers on GTX 470 @ 775 core (overclocked) was 17,359 GPU score. 52 fps test one, 49fps test 2.

use that as a point of reference.

thats on q6600 @ 3.15Ghz, 4GB DDR2.
 
Nickg said:
i can give u 3dmark vantage with latest drivers on GTX 470 @ 775 core (overclocked) was 17,359 GPU score. 52 fps test one, 49fps test 2.

use that as a point of reference.

thats on q6600 @ 3.15Ghz, 4GB DDR2.
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Do you think the GTX 470 at stock will be more than capable card of driving a 1920x1200 resolution monitor?
 
Jeez, I have already posted a number of reviews in your previous threads with the latest drivers showing the 5870 clearly being faster in all but the most Nvidia optimized games like farcry 2.

RavenXXX2 said:
Take no notice of the above comments, stock 470 is nowhere near the 5870 and the min FPS is just complete nonsense, yes you will find the odd game where ATI will have a lower min than Nvidia but there will be another game where ATI has better min, check review out below with the latest drivers form Nvidia, yes the 5870 has a slight overclock on but it is well faster than the 470 and gets the GOLD award from the reviewer.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...-high-end-roundup-june-2010-introduction.html

Here's another even more recent review of 470 with a slight overclock.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...gabyte-geforce-gtx-470-oc-edition-review.html

And another review showing detailed min FPS results with Nividias updated drivers, clearly the 5870 has way better min FPS than a 470.

http://www.techspot.com/review/283-geforce-gtx-400-vs-radeon-hd-5800/page2.html
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opethdisciple said:
Lets put it this way:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-147-XF&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1502

or

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-032-ZT&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1810

Best bang for buck?
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Yeah 5870, faster, quieter, runs cooler, uses less power, now do the math.
 
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Do you think the GTX 470 at stock will be more than capable card of driving a 1920x1200 resolution monitor?
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it should do but think about this for a sec... he standard core is clocked at 607Mhz... you should easily get to 700... thats 15% better performance right there... take it to 750 and thats nearly 25% increase...
 
Nickg said:
it should do but think about this for a sec... he standard core is clocked at 607Mhz... you should easily get to 700... thats 15% better performance right there... take it to 750 and thats nearly 25% increase...
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A %25 clock increase wont give %25 more performance.
 
I think (therefore I am), my GTX470 on 850MHz Core, 1930MHz memory got 18814 GPU marks. It is under water, but they do scale well with overclocking.

Though jigger's right, 25% overclock does not equal 25% more performance.

And it's not as good as a 5870 overclocked, but it is (probably) better than an small overclock on a 5870.
 
no your right it gave approximately 19% performance increase in terms of actual score. but im sure if i had moved the ram up too, then i would have gotten a higher score,
 
If both shader and core clocks are up by 25% (and you have sufficent VRAM bandwidth and CPU) then you will see very nearly 1:1 increase in performance. The 200 and 400 series do scale well when overclocked.
 
I can understand exactly that you want to cover all your bases before buying. I am also currently looking for a new graphics card. I can't decide between a GTX 470 and 480 (480 probably excluded due to cost), and a ATI 5850 or a 5870. While the 5870 is good, from what I have seen, the GTX 470 looks pretty good too, and considering I am thinking about adding a second one, I might go with that (performance seems to be roughly equal to a 5970).

But it is hard to decide. It's a lot of money to spend, and you don't want to make a mistake.
 
If your potentially looking at 5970 v GTX470 SLI down the road... go the SLI route. I'm not saying ATI is bad at multi GPU but SLI is the more rounded and supported of the 2.
 
Rroff said:
If your potentially looking at 5970 v GTX470 SLI down the road... go the SLI route. I'm not saying ATI is bad at multi GPU but SLI is the more rounded and supported of the 2.
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That sounds good :) The 470 on its own should do me well for a while, I should see a good boost from my 275, and when I SLI it, should be competitive for a while :)

The one game that concerns me is Metro 2033 which I bought in the Steam sale. Will definitely need a dual card setup to run that well!
 
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RavenXXX2 said:
Jeez, I have already posted a number of reviews in your previous threads with the latest drivers showing the 5870 clearly being faster in all but the most Nvidia optimized games like farcry 2.


Yeah 5870, faster, quieter, runs cooler, uses less power, now do the math.
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To be fair I think the Zotec GTX470 and XFX5870 are both priced correctly comparatively speaking. Personally I would still get the HD5870 as the heat and noisy would concern me with the GTX470 but neither card is a slouch when it comes to raw performance.

With the GTX470m now priced at the £240 it makes those £400+ GTX480's look even more overpriced then what they already were.
 
Marvin said:
I think (therefore I am), my GTX470 on 850MHz Core, 1930MHz memory got 18814 GPU marks. It is under water, but they do scale well with overclocking.

Though jigger's right, 25% overclock does not equal 25% more performance.

And it's not as good as a 5870 overclocked, but it is (probably) better than an small overclock on a 5870.
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only 850 under water?

must be a pretty poor chip seeing as my 470 gets 825MHz 1050mv on air

also what voltage?

@madindehead, actually the 470 when overclocked to >750MHz(can't remember the exact number) will happily play metro with 25fps minimum as long as AA is set to AAA, you might be able to play it with 4xAA though if you water cool it, get a good chip and overclock it >900MHz
 
In the main, I've got it watercooled for silence and just to keep it cooler than is possible under air.

I'm sure it could be pushed to 900.

Running on same volts as you are.

Ok, just tried to push to 900. Oh no...
 
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