Modern Warfare 2 is going P2P.

That's just retarded.

You can't compare an MMO to a FPS, you could play an MMO for 2000 hours and still not be bored or achieve even half of what's to achieve in the game.
 
basically the loops jumps you have to go through to prove someone is cheating. you can get a video of someone cheating and they will not except it could maybe you didnt say his name correctly by accident (typo) even though they got blatent aimbot proof screenshot with guide on and his guide :( this is why a lot dont get submitted cause people cant be arsed with the stress .

so basically the hackers have it good all ways

that's not more rights that's the same.

And damn right you should have to jump through hoops not just "here's a video ban him" as you could have made it to get someone who's annoyed you banned.
 
You have to look at a corporation in context of the field that they are in & to whether they are normal or not in the field that they operate in & in that case they are not normal as we would not be here talking about it.

The shareholder & charity argument does not hold because there has to be a line drawn & boundaries at some point because they are not owed a living .

They're trying to break from the norm to make more money, if it's successful i wouldn't be surprised to see EA follow suit fairly quickly with a Sports games sub. It's the same as newspapers charging for online access now, they're all looking at the Times to see if it's a success before doing it themselves.

Don't get me wrong i think this is a stupid move but then again EA lost $82m in Q3 this year compared to Activisions $15m profit, so on a purely fiscal level they're doing something right. When you can make up to $2m selling a digital star pony in WoW then it's going to make you push the limits.

Just to make it clear though i don't like Kotick or Activision :p so no nerd rage from anyone please.

At the end of the day none of the MW packs listed earlier in the thread charge for actual multiplayer access, it's purely for extras like customisations or leagues, you can still play and enjoy the game without spending a penny over the purchase price, as long as that stays the case then i don't really care what Activision do. Yes WoW may be more monetised since Kotick came along but all of that is for non essential goods, as long as that stays the same then i don't really see the problem. If enough people pay for MW2 subs to make it profitable then fair play to them really, but i won't be one of them.
 
They're trying to break from the norm to make more money, if it's successful i wouldn't be surprised to see EA follow suit fairly quickly with a Sports games sub. It's the same as newspapers charging for online access now, they're all looking at the Times to see if it's a success before doing it themselves.

Don't get me wrong i think this is a stupid move but then again EA lost $82m in Q3 this year compared to Activisions $15m profit, so on a purely fiscal level they're doing something right. When you can make up to $2m selling a digital star pony in WoW then it's going to make you push the limits.

Just to make it clear though i don't like Kotick or Activision :p so no nerd rage from anyone please.

At the end of the day none of the MW packs listed earlier in the thread charge for actual multiplayer access, it's purely for extras like customisations or leagues, you can still play and enjoy the game without spending a penny over the purchase price, as long as that stays the case then i don't really care what Activision do. Yes WoW may be more monetised since Kotick came along but all of that is for non essential goods, as long as that stays the same then i don't really see the problem. If enough people pay for MW2 subs to make it profitable then fair play to them really, but i won't be one of them.

WOW should not be used as an example because they are nothing alike and is the exception not the rule, no MMO has had the success of WOW even tho many try to emulate it.

Sports games also should not be used as an example because the fact that they are a real life worldwide poplar events that is not relied on change of game type for continued entertainment.

EA made a loss because they started to get lazy & turned out to many rehashed & crap games & eventually people will/got tired of it.
 
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I might be wrong about this, if so just ignore... but,

Starcraft2 is being released in a p2play format aswell ? Now who in their right mind would pay a subscription to play an RTS?

Games market is going downhill big time paying to play big titles IS going to be the norm over the next few years..

If a big fish like Valve/steam decide to incorporate a unified billing system, like everyone feared when it was released, that is game over.
 
I might be wrong about this, if so just ignore... but,

Starcraft2 is being released in a p2play format aswell ? Now who in their right mind would pay a subscription to play an RTS?

Games market is going downhill big time paying to play big titles IS going to be the norm over the next few years..

If a big fish like Valve/steam decide to incorporate a unified billing system, like everyone feared when it was released, that is game over.

Some people have massive games list in the 100s & if Pay to Play was in effect then they would be skint or only have about 5 games in there collection instead of the 100s.
 
Is P2P the official notation for pay2play, I read it as peer2peer and thought COD has been available on P2P for a long time :)
 
I cant see this happening. Take for example wow. You pay £9 a month (or less if bought in bulk) for a pretty decent game. It has decent support, constant updates etc etc.

With cod being sub based, well which of the above do you have? If they charged people a sub they need to provide a service to go with it and activision do not have a hope doing that imo. Activision are just plain greedy.

Global Agenda tried the monthly subscription model for a FPS.

No-one went for it. It's now free to play. It's a good game too, but subscribe to a FPS? No way.

Subscription-based FPS is a hard sell. Then again, COD is a strong name and people already pay xbox subscriptions for stuff they can get free on a PC. It could work, but I'd love to see it fail horribly. Then again, Activision brass would probably respond by firing 500 people :(
 
Someone must have mentioned it but Planetside.....

Why doesn't a company try to mirror that again, one of the best games ive ever played. Worth a sub due to the scale of it
Im sure SOE are trying to do a PS 2 but its a long way off.

Get a Star Wars franchise on a game like this and it would be beyond epic
 
I might be wrong about this, if so just ignore... but,

Starcraft2 is being released in a p2play format aswell ? Now who in their right mind would pay a subscription to play an RTS?

Games market is going downhill big time paying to play big titles IS going to be the norm over the next few years..

If a big fish like Valve/steam decide to incorporate a unified billing system, like everyone feared when it was released, that is game over.

StarCraft II isn't.
 
rather interesting read

Seems like they are killing this whole being charged for CoD dead.

No doubt some stupid gimp with an axe to grind whill find some other way of making a story out of it.

No that just says that mw2 will always be free, not future cods which is what kotick has been saying.

The fact he explicitly says mw2 not the cod series is noteworthy.
 
No that just says that mw2 will always be free, not future cods which is what kotick has been saying.

The fact he explicitly says mw2 not the cod series is noteworthy.

Have you even bothered to read that whole article? It's quiet clear what it says about future CoD games.
 
Have you even bothered to read that whole article? It's quiet clear what it says about future CoD games.

just like it was clear that "there would be no mp changes between cod4 and mw2"?

That was their line right until a few weeks before release, they say no plan exists not that they will never charge for it.

it also doesn't rule out micro transaction style system.
 
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