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5850, 5870 and GTX 470 reduced in price, what you think?

Bangs head against Wall! :confused:

Yes I see the value in someone getting a 5850 and overclocking to 5870 speeds.

But.... I also hear many people complaining about crashing and blue screens etc... with overclocked 5850...

Hang on when you say overclock it to 5870 speeds do you mean just 850 on the core and 4800MHz on the ram?

Is that do able by a noob like my self, easily?

Additioally I would prefer to get a ATI card, as it sucks less juice, runs cooler and I have a crossfire mobo.

Should I just say screw it and get the cheapest 5870 I can find?

Or can I get close to 5870 with a 5850, and overclock my self?

If you overclock any card you risk crashes and bluescreens if you clock it too high, it's not just the 5850. 5850s can hit 1ghz core, I was just using a 5870 as an example. I was unlucky enough to get a 5870 that doesn't overclock very well so I just feel a bit sour =).

Overclocking a Graphics card is actually deceptively easy, Both ATI and Nvidia drivers come with facilities to overclock with. Just grab a bit of software called furmark (stability test, stresses your graphics card to 100%). I'm an impatient overclocker, I start at a very high clock (one which will most likely artifact/error) and work my way down till it's stable.

up the core clock and test with furmark. up and test again and again until furmark starts throwing up weird blips or artifacts during the run, at which point you'll know you've gone too high. Dial it down about 10-15mhz and you'll have a stable overclock. repeat for the memory and you're sorted!
 
Ok, thanks guys for putting up with my incessant mumbling!

I think im gona go 5870.

Is it worth paying extra for the PC++ at £311 with what looks like a max overclock, or going for the cheaper stock xfx 5870 at £284?

Thanks
 
Is it worth paying extra for the PC++ at £311 with what looks like a max overclock, or going for the cheaper stock xfx 5870 at £284?

Thanks

Personally I'd stick with standard @ £284 as I find stock speeds good enough for running @ 1920x1200. - I could always overclock - but have not yet felt the need.

If you consider that the extra bit of speed that the already overclocked PC++ will give you is worth the extra £30 then go for that ;

On the other hand if either your not bothered about the extra speed or you would clock the standard card youself and are not worried about possibly invalidating the warranty (always assuming that you get a 'good' clocker - which appears to be a little bit more of a 'lucky dip' with the newer cards that it used to be:() then go for the standard speed.

Do not think you will be dissapointed with either :D
 
As long as the 5850 didn't rise too sharply in temps and noise at idle after overclocking (brand dependent perhaps), then that could also be a good move. At least that would be the 'make or break' aspect of it for me.
 
Ok, thanks guys for putting up with my incessant mumbling!

I think im gona go 5870.

Is it worth paying extra for the PC++ at £311 with what looks like a max overclock, or going for the cheaper stock xfx 5870 at £284?

Thanks

If you're getting a 5870 you'd be utterly bonkers not to get the 2GB Powercolor that's currently at £299 at OCUK.

Bonkers.
 
Same thoughts here, im leaning towards the GTX 470 though, not too fussed about the noise, my 280 has the annoying capasitor squeel!

I do a lot of video editing and photoshop work, do the ATi cards work with the acceleration?
 
I suppose you either love em or you hate em. You pay a lot more for them compared to stock cards, but at the same tiome you're guaranteed that overclock. You could be unlucky like me and get a 5870 that doesn't overclock at all, but at the same time if you bought the Xfx card for 280 odd quid you could be getting a card that will clock higher (1ghz anyone?).

Check some reviews on that card, see if it can go any higher.
 
Those PCS cards look tempting, I just can't stand the look of them. I know the look of the card isn't everything but to me that looks a bit amateurish, at least with the pics on the website anyway. Still, can't argue with the performance, obviously top quality production cores.
 
I suppose you either love em or you hate em. You pay a lot more for them compared to stock cards, but at the same tiome you're guaranteed that overclock. You could be unlucky like me and get a 5870 that doesn't overclock at all, but at the same time if you bought the Xfx card for 280 odd quid you could be getting a card that will clock higher (1ghz anyone?).

Check some reviews on that card, see if it can go any higher.

Which model 5870 do u have and have u tried installing a different bios on it?
 
Which model 5870 do u have and have u tried installing a different bios on it?

I have the standard Sapphire card, bios limited to 900mhz and hates overclocking in any way shape or form. I've thought about sticking and Asus or HIS bios in there but I'm scared of bricking the card =/
 
Same thoughts here, im leaning towards the GTX 470 though, not too fussed about the noise, my 280 has the annoying capasitor squeel!

I do a lot of video editing and photoshop work, do the ATi cards work with the acceleration?

I wonder if a 5850 will offer much more over your gtx280? It's still a solid card. I remember asking this when they came out last year, and I was advised to hang on to the gtx280; it was good advice.

In all honesty I'd be inclined to hang on and see whats on the horizon. Prices are finally coming down, and both ATI and Nvidia are poised to offer some tasty products towards year end :)
 
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