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Should i buy now or wait?

Jacos

Jacos

Jacos

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Hi,
i am getting a new system and the build will come with hd5770 1gb.
I was thinking of upgrading the card for an extra £60 to the Inno 3d gt 460 1gb.
My thoughts though are that the games i will be wanting to try and play etc are things like Conan, APB,Star trek online,World of warcraft. Basically MMO type games so im shure the 5770 will run all these to a good standard.
So i then thought i could save the £60 and then buy something in say a years time if i need more power or if some new games come out that demand more power..
Basically would i seen £60 worth of a difference with those type of games or would the gt460 simply be overkill.
Many thanks.
 
Golden rule "always buy the best you can afford" , nothing worse then "I wish I had" ;)

Get that 460, and welcome to the forums ;)
 
rolypolyman said:
Would'nt get a 460 after all thats been said. Agree with above get the best card you can afford. 5850 is £197 if you look around.:)
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I think You may not have thought about the context in which the question has been asked :confused: assuming he has shopped around that will be an additional £47 for the 5850 + the £60 !

I would say i agree with your sentiments though ;)
 
JAKUS said:
I think You may not have thought about the context in which the question has been asked :confused: assuming he has shopped around that will be an additional £47 for the 5850 + the £60 !

I would say i agree with your sentiments though ;)
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Cheers, yep I see what you mean. If op has'nt got the cash then the 5770 is a great card, got the cash then 5850 for me.:)
 
Jacos said:
Hi,
i am getting a new system and the build will come with hd5770 1gb.
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i think a lot of people are not reading our OP's question properly.(either that or i'm missing the point)

By this i assume that you currently do not have a build to upgrade and the £60 is an upgrade option on the new build? (not you buying a gtx460 separately). So in this context I would definitely say that the 60quid for the 460 upgrade over the 5770 is well worth it .

You may find in a years time the gtx460 is still kicking out good fps, just like the gtx 260 is today.

if the new system is from OCUK, if you give them a call, they maybe able to give you a quote on upgrading the build to a 5850 as well.
 
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Run the 5770 for a while, determine if its up to the job, then make a decision.

Could if need more power crossfire 5770's! Near 5870 performance.

Ahh, if its only 60 more to upgrade, then yea, upgrade it.... it the cheapest option available to you.
 
Thankyou for all the advice. The reason though tht i posted was in relation to how the cards would run with the games i will be playing. I wont be playing shooters or games that need really fast frames per second.
The most demanding game i think would be apb or conan,sta trek,finlal fantasy online etc.
I suppose rule of thumb as most say is to get the best you can. This is a complete new system build no upgrade from any old card.
If i didnt pay the extra for the gts 460 i could spend the money on extra ram or some other part.
Basically its like this.
If i have 2 pcs one with the 5770 and one with the gtx460 and they were both running age of conan or similar type game would i really notice a difference visually-texture wise etc that would justify a further spend of £60?
Many thanks once again.
 
Well, a 5770 is literally a 5870 cut in half.

So its a nice BUDGET card. The GTX 460, is much more powerful, compared to the 5770.

How much ram, is your new machine coming with? If its gona be running windows 7 x64, then more then 2 gb of ram, would be useful. (edit, more ram, would not push more fps tho in games, so the gpu is still the most critical component)

Then again, if its not 64bit or has 4gbs of ram already upgrade the graphics card.

what would be helpful is if you give us the specs of the machine you are getting, then we can see the machine in relation to its components.
 
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FFXIV can be a little tough to run well if the benchmark is to be believed.

I'd ask in the forums for people who have the cards you're considering to run it at what res you want to play at and see what would do :)
 
Trox said:
The GTX 460 has "Directx11 Done Right" though!... :p


lol
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They are not wrong about that, considering GTX460 1GB actually deliver higher frame rate than a 5870 in Heaven Benchmark 2.1...but ironically, it is the Directx 11 games that haven't got Directx 11 done right yet :D

But the chances are it will take forever until directx 11 games get to the point of using tessellations to extreme level.
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
They are not wrong about that, considering GTX460 1GB actually deliver higher frame rate than a 5870 in Heaven Benchmark 2.1...but ironically, it is the Directx 11 games that haven't got Directx 11 done right yet :D

But the chances are it will take forever until directx 11 games get to the point of using tessellations to extreme level.
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This makes me think I shouldnt bother holding out for the 6870... and just get a £280 HIS 5870 now!

Hopefully the 6000 series will improve the tesselation performanc of the 5000 series, but if not many games use tesselation, is it worth wating for??

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Sorry yeah my build is i5 760 2.8 over clocked to 3.6 and 4 gig of ram.
so should be fine for my games of choice.
Im not really fussed about to much noise from the gtx 460 as i have seen reported on here so that snot a factor.
I guess i should just get the upgrade to the gtx 460 and hope it will last me a couple of years at least.
 
Jacos said:
Thankyou for all the advice. The reason though tht
Basically its like this.
If i have 2 pcs one with the 5770 and one with the gtx460 and they were both running age of conan or similar type game would i really notice a difference visually-texture wise etc that would justify a further spend of £60?
Many thanks once again.
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It's generally harder to ask a question than answer it ! ;)

I doubt there is much image quality wise between Ati / Nvidia ..but consider the following...

I don't know those games or Your chosen resolution but You still need power in the bag to use things like Anti-Ailiasing & Anisotropic filtering etc... now these things will make any game image look better.

Disregarding the fps requirement as just for fast "shooter type" may be very wrong, as digital frames are only changed in the areas that things are moving and that re rendered frame is sent to the monitor, now there can be a lot less re-rendering in a shooter than one of the other game types with loads of creatures and things moving and when the card can not render those frames quicker than around 20fps you will see it as stutter/lag

hopefully I've not totally confused You :D
You may do well to look up the manufacturers hardware requirements for all the intended games for this new rig ;)
 
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