G20 police officer cleared of assault

RDM said:
What do you mean by justice? Do you mean the police officer being convicted for manslaughter? Because that isn't justice, that is predetermined guilt. The conflicting evidence would suggest that the chances of a conviction for manslaughter are slim so it is pointless proceeding with a prosecution. The CPS do the same day in, day out with many other cases that are just not as high profile. So what you seem to want is for this case to be treated differently because of it's profile and because the accussed is a police officer. That would be unfair.
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I'd like to see some punishment for the officer, preferably dismissal. Despite my views I'm aware of how the manslaughter charge probably wouldn't stick, and how the assault charge can't be brought even though he's obviously guilty.
 
wordy said:
I'd like to see some punishment for the officer, preferably dismissal. Despite my views I'm aware of how the manslaughter charge probably wouldn't stick, and how the assault charge can't be brought even though he's obviously guilty.
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Right, so you aren't actually interested in justice then as you have already assumed guilt.
 
RDM said:
Right, so you aren't actually interested in justice then as you have already assumed guilt.
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Right so you wouldn't assume guilt if somone walked up to a person and shot him in the face?

At the very least I think this police officer is guilty of assault, you know by not being blind and watching the event.
 
wordy said:
At the very least I think this police officer is guilty of assault, you know by not being blind and watching the event.
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It certainly looks really bad, however we have limited footage and only one side of the story. From that you have decided he is quilty and should be dismissed. You aren't interested at all in justice just seeing this police officer punished.
 
i think the stat someone mentioned on the politics show that over the last 100 years or whatever, 1000 people have died in police custody and in not one case have charges been brought against the police.

odd huh?
 
Nickg said:
i think the stat someone mentioned on the politics show that over the last 100 years or whatever, 1000 people have died in police custody and in not one case have charges been brought against the police.

odd huh?
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1000 out of how many tens of millions of "man days" (or night) which will generally include drunks, drug addicts, people in various states of poor health (statistically you'd expect a fair few deaths just from heart attacks and strokes given the total time/number of people, regardless of if they were in custody, the back of a police car, or sat at home on the loo).

Also I find it very hard to beleive that there have never been any charges bought against the police in any case - it sounds more like some "stat" someone has made up.
 
KNiVES said:
Too many police brutality apologists and 'immigrants must die' people in this thread that it truly tarnishes the image and reputation of OcUK. Today I am truly disgusted and disappointed.

Well done for eroding my faith in humanity :( Certain truly reputable long-time board members, as well as BNP pond scum both alike has joined the fray of the disgusting simpleton mentality that has led to the apologetic and tolerant nature of needless deaths and altercations that have lowered the stature of the authorities that are supposed to protect us, and the profile of man as a whole.

This thread... is deeply disturbing and a horrific simulacrum into how man can easily sanction the brutal treatment of others without even the slightest dent into their morality and conscience. Congratulations...
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Well said that man.
 
KNiVES said:
Too many police brutality apologists and 'immigrants must die' people in this thread that it truly tarnishes the image and reputation of OcUK. Today I am truly disgusted and disappointed.

Well done for eroding my faith in humanity :( Certain truly reputable long-time board members, as well as BNP pond scum both alike has joined the fray of the disgusting simpleton mentality that has led to the apologetic and tolerant nature of needless deaths and altercations that have lowered the stature of the authorities that are supposed to protect us, and the profile of man as a whole.

This thread... is deeply disturbing and a horrific simulacrum into how man can easily sanction the brutal treatment of others without even the slightest dent into their morality and conscience. Congratulations...
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Here here,

Just read through the thread, truly disturbing and saddening some peoples attitudes on here.

And I still don't understand why these people weren't allowed to protest freely, have the laws changed in this country now in regards to protesting?
 
dirtydog said:
When police officers escape prosecution we cannot blame idiots for applauding Raoul Moat
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/g...annot-blame-idiots-for-applauding-raoul-moat/
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they cannont blame them and call them idiots, what a dumb headline.
if they want to support people who shoot police officers are they not allowed ?
if the police kill members of the public then as expected police officers stick together, but if a member of the public were to kill a police officer then are members of the public not allowed to verbally support each other without being called idiots or some other insult ?
 
lowrider007 said:
Here here,

Just read through the thread, truly disturbing and saddening some peoples attitudes on here.

And I still don't understand why these people weren't allowed to protest freely, have the laws changed in this country now in regards to protesting?
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People can protest freely but as I recall there were numerous public order incidents associated with the protests that required the police to step in to contain the disorder.

It beggars belief that so many people want to emasculate the police force, do people not remember the May Day riots of 2000?
 
Nickg said:
i think the stat someone mentioned on the politics show that over the last 100 years or whatever, 1000 people have died in police custody and in not one case have charges been brought against the police.

odd huh?
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Please, ppl die in "police custody" for all manner of reasons totally unrelated to their contact with police.

If someone swallows a load of drugs shortly before being jailed and fails to disclose this or if someone fails to disclose that they have a medical issue when they are put in a cell and subsequently die of this then how can the police be at fault ??

Even after the prisoner has declared it and medical attention is sought, with the best will in the world, that person may still die which is then classed as a death in police custody.

The "stat" you mention probably fails to take cases like this into account.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11864361

A police officer filmed pushing a man to the ground during the G20 is to face a police misconduct hearing.

Ian Tomlinson, 47, died after being caught up in the clashes on 1 April 2009 in the City of London.

In July the Crown Prosecution Service decided not to press criminal charges against Pc Simon Harwood

At a police disciplinary hearing he will face a charge of gross misconduct which will be held in the next 30 days and could be conducted in public.
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