Cracked BMW alloys

I totally agree that my whinging is just that, whinging. BMW are doing what is right for them commercially.

I just think its a damn shame that the default car for somebody who 'needs some company car' is a fully Sport kitted 2 litre diesel with 19 inch wheels :( You used to be able to see certain models and think 'He's into his cars...' even if they were not an out and out petrolhead.

The thing is these cars are still compromised in the pursuit of handling and performance - ie the suspension, tyre profile, etc etc - I wonder why these people who just want some economical diesel are happy to put up with the disdvantages without ever appreciating the advantages?
 
[TW]Fox;17007616 said:
I wonder why these people who just want some economical diesel are happy to put up with the disdvantages without ever appreciating the advantages?
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Because they want the looks of a sporty car and because the option is there so they just do it. There's nothing magical to wonder :confused:
 
Amoeba said:
I can't quite tell if you are joking or not.. :confused:
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No? The lower end cars look pretty much the same as the higher end ones, so you get people buying a 2 litre BMW and thinking they're awesome because it has big wheels.

Edit: Here's an example I witnessed recently. Saw an M3 CSL which one person said "oh that's really nice" and the other guy (who drives a standard E46) said "What's the big deal, mine's like that? You were never like that with mine though". Facepalm.
 
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I just don't get what the problem is with having a slower than top-end car that looks sporty :confused:. It's not like any of the BMWs are /especially/ slow and if the owner wants it to look like that then what's the issue??

Some people prefer looks and style over performance. In my eyes that is totally fine as is the way people like Fox seem to prefer comfort and perceived build quality over out and out sportyness. Other people just don't care at all what their car is like so long as it moves.

What I'm saying is, just because you guys don't like something (in this case a 2ltr BMW with a sport pack) doesn't make people that do like it 'wrong'.

The only real reason I can think of (and that Fox has alluded to) is that you are upset that more people are buying BMWs; be it through a company car scheme or whatever, and the club of 'expensive looking BMWs' is no longer as exclusive as it was...
 
Amoeba said:
I just don't get what the problem is with having a slower than top-end car that looks sporty :confused:..
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There isn't any problem with it. The only problem is that some people decide to make it a problem in their own mind for some reason. Its as though the car you have just bought somehow belongs to them and they have a right to moan if it doesn't match their own personal view about the minimum spec a certain brand of car should have. Water off a ducks back though tbh.
 
Bubo said:
There isn't any problem with it. The only problem is that some people decide to make it a problem in their own mind for some reason. Its as though the car you have just bought somehow belongs to them and they have a right to moan if it doesn't match their own personal view about the minimum spec a certain brand of car should have. Water off a ducks back though tbh.
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Congratulations for totally missing the point :p

I'm a bit nervous about using this analogy as people will almost certainly take it the wrong way, but I'll try anyway.

We all like R8's, yes? It's always 'oooh' to see an R8. And imagine having an R8! Cool!

Would it be the same experience if Audi introduced an R8 with the 2.0 TDI engine in it but otherwise identical to the V8? And suddenly loads of people who just wanted 'a car' ordered one off the company car list? And then on your next journey up the M6, every 4th car was an R8. And in Tesco, there were 15 parked. Everywhere you went, more and more R8 2.0 TDI's.

Then somebody drives past in an R8 V10. Would you even notice? Would you even care?

This is a bit like how some of us feel about 90% of BMW Sport models now being 2 litre diesels. I didnt say there was an answer, I didnt even say I'm right and I did say that I understand why BMW do it.

I just think its a real shame. I think the 330i and 335i M Sport Coupe's are genuinelly impressive cars. But you never notice them anymore as they simply blend into the sea of tedium that is the E92 fleet market.

At least the M3 looks a bit different, I guess.
 
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My 2009 E92 335 has the 19" 225 alloys on it and they are fine even with the terrible roads round here but I do dodge the pot holes as much as I can. I do cringe when I hit one I miss as the suspension is not forgiving, but so far no cracks.
 
Dr House said:
My style 230 cracked.

It took 3 months of fighting with bmw but they replaced them free of change. I never bothered to put the new ones on the car. I just changed to a set of Mv3's.
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Thanks, so it looks like BMW still dig there heals in and try and blame the driver then. How long ago was it when yours cracked?

Anyone elso fancy bringing this thread back on topic? :p
 
[TW]Fox;17010260 said:
What topic? Your Dad has a car with no broken wheels, there is no issue to discuss :p
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Well me being stupid and thinking that there was a lot of BMW gurus in here, I thought some of them may be up to speed on what BMWs policy is regarding cracked wheels now. IIRC BMW refused to replace them to start off with and blamed drivers for hitting pot holes / speed bumps too quick, then after the Watchdog episode there are reports that BMW would replace them. Simply, did BMW admit there was a fault and will now just replace them if they do crack and show no obvious signs of impact, or is it a case of fighting them to get them replaced if they do manage to crack? Surely it wasnt too hard to work out what I was asking? :p
 
[TW]Fox;17010421 said:
BMW's opinion is exactly as I've told you my first reply to your thread :p You will have a big fight to get new wheels.
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And i'm sure if I had put in the op that the car was a 335i with 19" style 225s your first reply would have been worded slightly differently ;) Ok so you have to still fight to get them replaced by BMW, thats basically all I wanted to know :)
 
Doesn't this all depend on when your father actually cracks the alloys? As BMWs stance could well have changed for the better or maybe they'll be even more hard nosed then they currently are?

Epilogue
Worry about it when it actually happens.
 
IAmATeaf said:
Doesn't this all depend on when your father actually cracks the alloys? As BMWs stance could well have changed for the better or maybe they'll be even more hard nosed then they currently are?

Epilogue
Worry about it when it actually happens.
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Oh nobodys not worrying about it, just thought I'd ask.
 
[TW]Fox;17007524 said:
BMW used to have it right - if you wanted a Sport model, you had to chose a larger engine. When introduced on the E39, for example, you were not allowed a Sport with a 520i or a 523i, only a 528i or above.
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You mean 525i and above ;)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...words/m sport/postcode/e49en/page/3?logcode=p

Edit: Actually you can get sport model in a 520i as well: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../m sport 520i/postcode/e49en/page/2?logcode=p
 
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ajstan said:
You mean 525i and above ;)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...words/m sport/postcode/e49en/page/3?logcode=p

Edit: Actually you can get sport model in a 520i as well: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../m sport 520i/postcode/e49en/page/2?logcode=p
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Did you try to outgeek me on the E39 5 Series? ;)

525i Sport introduced in mid 2001.

520i Sport and 520i Sport Avus Blue Edition introduced in 2002 for the final year of production as a run-out model. 525d Sport introduced at this time also.
 
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