Unconvinced - Spec £1000~ Ish

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So the thing that is a bit disconcerning it the type of CPU.

I love AMD - I have used them since I started gaming and have had no regrets. I love their affordability and their longitivity.

I am soon looking to build a new computer for around £1000~ and am wondering. Should I stick with my affordable AMD or go and try out Intel.

I use the computer for gaming mainly. But am also at University studying Computer Science so need the computer to be able compile and debug code well (Which a Gaming Computer should do with no problem at all).

So the specifications for this build need to fit the following criteria:

I need a 24" Monitor with 1920x1080 (I was looking at http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-051-IY&groupid=17&catid=510&subcat= <--That One)

I then need a computer that can handle my games on full graphics. I do NOT play games like Crysis, however I do play MMORPGs (World of Warcraft, Aion, DDO, Warhammer Online) and I only like to play these on the Max possible settings and the max Resolution they can go.

I want it to be future proof (As much as it can be for the price tag anyhow) as there is a new World of Warcraft expansion coming out and this is one of the main reasons I'm building the computer.

I do NOT need an Operating System, Keyboard nor Mouse.

Cooling would be nice but at the same time I would require it to be quiet, this is not a great issue although it is something that would be a nice extra.

The case has to look 'nice'. Nothing flashy *look here* but some lights would be nice (I was thinking: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-175-CM&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=29 due to the cooling)

Thank you for reading fellow computer enthusiasts!

/Johnathan
 
Your basketProduct Name Qty Price Line Total
Zotac GeForce GTX 470 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card + Just Cause 2 Game £234.99
(£199.99) £234.99
(£199.99)
BenQ G2420HDBL 24" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £159.79
(£135.99) £159.79
(£135.99)
AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £129.24
(£109.99) £129.24
(£109.99)
Asus M4A87TD/USB3 AMD 870 (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard £86.99
(£74.03) £86.99
(£74.03)
OCZ Reaper Low-Latency 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 12800C6 (1600MHz) Dual-Channel (OCZ3RPR1600C6LV4GK) £82.99
(£70.63) £82.99
(£70.63)
Sapphire Pure 625W Modular Power Supply £64.61
(£54.99) £64.61
(£54.99)
Corsair H50-1 High-Performance CPU Watercooler (Socket LGA775/1156/1366/AM2/AM3) £59.98
(£51.05) £59.98
(£51.05)
Silverstone SST-PS03B Precision Midi Tower Case - Black £42.99
(£36.59) £42.99
(£36.59)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500418AS) £31.71
(£26.99) £31.71
(£26.99)
Sub Total : £760.25
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £17.85
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £136.17
Total : £914.27
 
stulid said:
Your basketProduct Name Qty Price Line Total
Zotac GeForce GTX 470 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card + Just Cause 2 Game £234.99
(£199.99) £234.99
(£199.99)
BenQ G2420HDBL 24" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £159.79
(£135.99) £159.79
(£135.99)
AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £129.24
(£109.99) £129.24
(£109.99)
Asus M4A87TD/USB3 AMD 870 (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard £86.99
(£74.03) £86.99
(£74.03)
OCZ Reaper Low-Latency 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 12800C6 (1600MHz) Dual-Channel (OCZ3RPR1600C6LV4GK) £82.99
(£70.63) £82.99
(£70.63)
Sapphire Pure 625W Modular Power Supply £64.61
(£54.99) £64.61
(£54.99)
Corsair H50-1 High-Performance CPU Watercooler (Socket LGA775/1156/1366/AM2/AM3) £59.98
(£51.05) £59.98
(£51.05)
Silverstone SST-PS03B Precision Midi Tower Case - Black £42.99
(£36.59) £42.99
(£36.59)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500418AS) £31.71
(£26.99) £31.71
(£26.99)
Sub Total : £760.25
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £17.85
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £136.17
Total : £914.27
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Wow that was a quick response.

Not a bad build and there is some leeway in the price tag to add an SSD.

Any more ideas ^^?

/Johnathan
 
Your basketProduct Name Qty Price Line Total
HIS iCooler V ATI Radeon HD 5850 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £211.49
(£179.99) £211.49
(£179.99)
BenQ G2420HDBL 24" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £159.79
(£135.99) £159.79
(£135.99)
AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £129.24
(£109.99) £129.24
(£109.99)
Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H AMD 890GX (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard £104.99
(£89.35) £104.99
(£89.35)
OCZ Reaper Low-Latency 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 12800C6 (1600MHz) Dual-Channel (OCZ3RPR1600C6LV4GK) £82.99
(£70.63) £82.99
(£70.63)
Coolermaster CM-690 II Advanced Dominator Case - Black £80.99
(£68.93) £80.99
(£68.93)
Sapphire Pure 625W Modular Power Supply £64.61
(£54.99) £64.61
(£54.99)
Corsair H50-1 High-Performance CPU Watercooler (Socket LGA775/1156/1366/AM2/AM3) £59.98
(£51.05) £59.98
(£51.05)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500418AS) £31.71
(£26.99) £31.71
(£26.99)
Sub Total : £787.91
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £20.10
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £141.40
Total : £949.41

this motherboard supports crossfire, so in a couple of years, add a second 5850 for more umphhh.

and theres a better case.
 
Does anyone have any feelings towards the SSD's and what kind of NOTICABLE improvements they have when used as primary OS drive?


/Johnathan
 
are you actually overclocking? i didnt see anywhere saying you were but people are specing uber expensive coolers that might not be needed
 
RookieClocker said:
get the same one that im gunna buy hopefully

"Ultima Raptor" AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz @ 4.00GHz DDR3 System

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-262-OK

i <3 AMD too
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Doesn't include a screen :\

I was thinking maybe something along the lines of :

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What do you guys think?

Edit.
Been reading quite a few reviews of this CPU and seems this can be quite safely OC'd to 4.0GHz. That's why I put in the 2 120mm side fans in just to extract heat away from the CPU.

Also add this: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-072-AK&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=1395

The only worry about this, is the case going to be deep enough for them two side panel fans and that heatsink :o

/Johnathan
 
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How about this?200 quid cheaper and will do the job just fine.You can also add another HD5770 later on.I consider this to be the better option.Plus you get a LED monitor:D
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Not bad at all!

But isn't it worth paying £10 to get the 2000Mhz RAM instead of 1600MHz?

Or is there some advantage to Reaper instead of OCZ Gold?

/Johnathan
 
Considering how cpu dependant wow is and the fact it's multi core support is basically non existent you are going to want to oc the pants off your cpu if you want to play it at max and be 100% smooth. Although 3.2ghz is a good start :P

From what I've read on these forums the OCZ gold is terrible in terms of the amount of faulty kits people seem to be getting. I would steer clear. You would have to over clock to take advantage of it anyway.
 
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Boozebeard said:
Considering how cpu dependant wow is and the fact it's multi core support is basically non existent you are going to want to oc the pants off your cpu if you want to play it at max and be 100% smooth.

From what I've read on these forums the OCZ gold is terrible in terms of the amount of faulty kits people seem to be getting. I would steer clear. You would have to over clock to take advantage of it anyway.
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At the minute I'm running WOW on a laptop:

Intel Core 2 Duo P8700 @ 2.53GHz
4GB DDR3 RAM (Don't know Speed)
500GB Hard Drive
Geforce 9800M GTS 1GB (Cuda)

And I get around 60FPS usually (Except in main cities etc)

So I think a specification like the previous poster (When the CPU is OC'd to 4GHz) Should play wow smooth.

The only worry I have is when I play it on that screen at 1920x1080.
Can that graphics card handle it?

/Johnathan
 
Of course it can.Don't worry.Trust us.;) The HD5770 can handle Crysis at High with that res....WoW should be a piece of cake.
 
stulid said:
well, I get moist when i see this, http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-007-CR&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=910

review- http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2010/07/21/crucial-realssd-c300-64gb-ssd-review/1
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This is a most interesting drive. It seems to read as fast as anything out there, but actual write speeds are incredibly slow.
I checked and rechecked, their tested write speeds in that review are actually lower than I get transferring files across my gigabit network now, From a computer with an F3 to another with an F3.

I assume that compromise is why the price for the drive seems low and competitive.

It would be slow to setup winodws on, but then should fly if used only as a boot drive, making sure the pagefile is kept on a separate data drive that doesn't mind writes.
 
your requirements are pretty much the same as mine.

I'd say...

i7 + 5850/5870 vapor-x + 6gb ddr3

i always recommend vapor-x coz mine is near silent and uber-cool

no need for ssd
 
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02goswej said:
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I would never trust an expensive pc with that psu.

And the gold ram, as well as being slow with some really high memory timings, may even turn up faulty.

the Reaper ram has much lower timings, is cheaper, and will still allow plenty of overclocking with its 1600mhz rating.
 
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